Rob heys - Page 6

maccawozzagod · 11-08-2013, 15:49

turned out fer t'Ultra team once or twice and many would think he was throwing games ....

cashman · 12-08-2013, 07:33

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Originally Posted by accybeme

FA officials found out about his gambling by following Rob Heys on Twitter

If thats true, the point is theres many Ceos in football,plus many others in important positions in football, I'm damn sure the F.A. aint got time or manpower to follow em all? Therefore it leaves the thought that someones shopped him.

sherry · 12-08-2013, 12:19

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Originally Posted by Tom D

A very quick search on google and I found this.

http://www.sportsbettinggroup.org/do...%20Booklet.pdf

Quoting from a page of the above booklet.

Monitoring
You need to be aware that there is a great deal of monitoring of the betting markets.

The football authorities work closely with specialist companies who are
constantly reviewing data and betting patterns from betting operators.

In addition, we have links with the betting operators themselves and with the Gambling Commission, the regulatory body for betting operators
in this country.
All of these organisations are aware of our betting rules and advise us of issues that arisein the cash, telephone and online betting markets.

The FA has the power to interview you and to require you to produce records
such as itemised phone bills, betting account statements and bank statements.

In summary, if you breach the betting rules, you are likely to get caught. You will the nbe subject to the FA’s disciplinary procedures and, if found
guilty, you will be subject to a range of sanctions including a warning,
fine or a significant period of suspension.

Remember, it’s your reputation, your responsibility and your career.

DtheP47 · 12-08-2013, 13:36

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Originally Posted by accybeme

FA officials found out about his gambling by following Rob Heys on Twitter

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Originally Posted by cashman

If thats true, the point is theres many Ceos in football,plus many others in important positions in football, I'm damn sure the F.A. aint got time or manpower to follow em all? Therefore it leaves the thought that someones shopped him.

Anybody numb enough to put their dodgy carryings on onto the web by twitter, facebook "et al" for all to see is the architect of their own downfall Mr C.

loweiy · 12-08-2013, 13:52

Just a quick thought .....wasn't there a lot of 'SKY Bet' signs around the football league Grounds this week (and for the next 5 years)

only a quick thought that is all

Loweiy

accybeme · 12-08-2013, 14:09

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Originally Posted by cashman

If thats true, the point is theres many Ceos in football,plus many others in important positions in football, I'm damn sure the F.A. aint got time or manpower to follow em all? Therefore it leaves the thought that someones shopped him.

this article was taken from Mailonline 12th Aug

((((Accrington Stanley’s managing director Rob Heys, who has admitted multiple betting offences going back to 2003, at an FA hearing next week.
The charge follows a tweet last season being spotted by the authorities in which he revealed he had bet on Aston Villa’s 4-2 third-round Capital One Cup victory over Manchester City: ‘Laid City with Betfair at 1.18.))))

CHARLES SALE: Football can't penalise gambling violators while accepting huge betting sponsors | Mail Online

cashman · 12-08-2013, 15:02

What a daily rag says n what the F.A. says can well be 2 different things, Rules are Rules n Stupidity is Stupidity.

DAV007 · 12-08-2013, 16:07

Im aware there are betting rules in place but IMO these charges are pathetic.
If Stanley where involved I would understand but the villa vs city game is as far removed from league 2 as you can get.

Also, the way the story has been leaked to the press is unfair, no reason the FA couldnt have made it clear when they charged Rob it was relating to a league cup game that had nothing to do with Stanley.

And why has it taken the FA so long to charge him?
There are as many questions for the FA to answer as there is for Rob.

cashman · 12-08-2013, 16:46

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Im aware there are betting rules in place but IMO these charges are pathetic.
If Stanley where involved I would understand but the villa vs city game is as far removed from league 2 as you can get.

Also, the way the story has been leaked to the press is unfair, no reason the FA couldnt have made it clear when they charged Rob it was relating to a league cup game that had nothing to do with Stanley.

And why has it taken the FA so long to charge him?
There are as many questions for the FA to answer as there is for Rob.

Are you aware how many bets are involved?

and who they involve? Even if a cup match not involving us the rules state clearly no bets in anything your own club is taking part in, go listen to the video on the F.A. site.

Jeg Red · 12-08-2013, 17:39

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Im aware there are betting rules in place but IMO these charges are pathetic.
If Stanley where involved I would understand but the villa vs city game is as far removed from league 2 as you can get.

Also, the way the story has been leaked to the press is unfair, no reason the FA couldnt have made it clear when they charged Rob it was relating to a league cup game that had nothing to do with Stanley.

And why has it taken the FA so long to charge him?
There are as many questions for the FA to answer as there is for Rob.

Dav, the FA rules on betting are clear and unambiguous and cover competitions your team are involved in, and, for cup competitions, the rule applies even if your team have been knocked out and are no longer 'active' for that season.

For me, it's not a question of how long it took or how many bets, it's a question of the judgement our MD has shown by betting when it's clearly contrary to the rules, especially in light of the recent episode with the players, and the judgement he's shown by broadcasting it on Twitter. Why would we want someone who's demonstrated such poor judgement making the fundamental decisions about our club?

I'm struggling to see how Rob could return to do his job with any genuine credibility after this

AccyMad · 12-08-2013, 17:45

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Im aware there are betting rules in place but IMO these charges are pathetic.
If Stanley where involved I would understand but the villa vs city game is as far removed from league 2 as you can get.

Also, the way the story has been leaked to the press is unfair, no reason the FA couldnt have made it clear when they charged Rob it was relating to a league cup game that had nothing to do with Stanley.

And why has it taken the FA so long to charge him?
There are as many questions for the FA to answer as there is for Rob.

If it was just the one charge for betting on the Villa v City game I might agree that it's a little harsh but the Accy Observer stated that : 'Around 500 bets have been investigated with some relating to Accrington Stanley or competions in which they were involved' so it's not so simple

accybeme · 12-08-2013, 18:38

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Originally Posted by cashman

What a daily rag says n what the F.A. says can well be 2 different things, Rules are Rules n Stupidity is Stupidity.

you don't have to believe the daily rags account it can easily be verified by looking at Rob Heys twitter post on 25th Sept 2012

cashman · 12-08-2013, 18:42

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Originally Posted by accybeme

you don't have to believe the daily rags account it can easily be verified by looking at Rob Heys twitter post on 25th Sept 2012

Which enforces me comment "Stupidity is Stupidity."

DAV007 · 12-08-2013, 18:54

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Originally Posted by AccyMad

If it was just the one charge for betting on the Villa v City game I might agree that it's a little harsh but the Accy Observer stated that : 'Around 500 bets have been investigated with some relating to Accrington Stanley or competions in which they were involved' so it's not so simple

Fair enough Accy Mad,
I was under the impression it was the one game.

I presume Peter Marsden has been briefed on what's happened?
How fast do the FA decide upon a suitable punishment?
Is it normally a fine or a ban from the game?
Is there a risk the club could be fined?

Exile on Spencer St · 12-08-2013, 19:31

I know the club is always strapped for cash but I can only hope the bets weren't being made in Stanley's name.
Maybe that could be Mr Heys' defence; it wasn't stupidity, your honour, I was just exploiting some funding opportunities with one of the League's official sponsors.
Betting = a mug's game. Twitter = a mug's medium.
Let's hope he learns if he still has a job after this.