The Luton thread - Page 3

yonmon · 20-04-2019, 22:43

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Originally Posted by Dav1d

Time to take the rose tinted specs off

Or possibly to put some on Dav ?..

Lord Love Rocket · 20-04-2019, 23:07

Couldn't bel

Lord Love Rocket · 20-04-2019, 23:20

In the second half I couldn't believe donaicen trying to shake the hand of the Luton player as he was going of.What an embarrassment can't believe he's still getting a game get back to Ipswich how poor is he shocking.as for coley just listened to his excuses the pitch saying we outplayed them sorry don't know what game he was watching men against boys not good enough coley think you need to look a bit nearer home.

Simpson · 20-04-2019, 23:45

“as for coley just listened to his excuses the pitch saying we outplayed them sorry don't know what game he was watching ”

I think he was watching the same game as StanleyJosh!

Both Cashman and 28 call it correctly. I’d be interested in MH’s view of the first penalty ( I think he is or was a ref). My understanding is that if the keeper makes no attempt for the ball ( and he didn’t) then it’s a straight red and longer ban (which it should have been)

As for Sousa, apologies if I’m being thick but why would he get criticism, he didn’t play ?
Re Nolon, he played 9 times for Salford on loan including their biggest wins v Orient and Wrexham at new year as holding midfield with no goals conceded. Salford wanted to extend but we recalled him . They then lost 3 games in 4 or 5 from memory. In the short time he was on today he won headers and clattered 2 of their players. Not sure what you were expecting Josh, the game was over ?

StanleyJosh · 21-04-2019, 06:10

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Originally Posted by Simpson

“as for coley just listened to his excuses the pitch saying we outplayed them sorry don't know what game he was watching ”

I think he was watching the same game as StanleyJosh!
As for Sousa, apologies if I’m being thick but why would he get criticism, he didn’t play ?
Re Nolon, he played 9 times for Salford on loan including their biggest wins v Orient and Wrexham at new year as holding midfield with no goals conceded. Salford wanted to extend but we recalled him . They then lost 3 games in 4 or 5 from memory. In the short time he was on today he won headers and clattered 2 of their players. Not sure what you were expecting Josh, the game was over ?

RE; the first penalty Simpson, there was a rule change at the start of this season that meant as long as he didn’t deny clear goal scoring opportunity (eg handball on line) a foul in box is not a straight red any more.

As for Sousa/Nolan - apologies, I should have been clearer in my comments.
I was more referring to the people stood by me at the game, who, it seems every time we go 1-0 down, at half time they are calling for drastic changes from Coley (as if completely changing system/team will magically mean we will be better)

I don’t think if we had brought on the players they were hoping for (namely Sousa & Nolan) we would have had any chance of coming back from a goal down at half time. (And thought we actually started the second half brightly and had a few chances (a la clicker....)

I saw Nolan get outplayed by Blackburn’s Under 23s in Feb.
I like him, but he’s not League 1 standard.
That isn’t to say I feel the others are, again just commenting on the stupid comments I’ve heard from people last few weeks.

andyd · 21-04-2019, 06:28

Pitch awful ref awful Stanley awful none I,m afraid league 1 standard.

cashman · 21-04-2019, 06:46

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Originally Posted by ASFC1019

What an insulting comment to make. You really are the most negative fan ever known. Yes we’re on a bad run but to say that is really embarrassing. Is this the same manager who has won 4 league titles at the club? Did we not win them league titles by using tactics.
JC will have forgotten more about football tactics than you’ll ever know.

Go boil yer head its an honest opinion no-one can doubt the achievements J.C. has made they are incredible for a club with our resources, but i am of the opinion hes reached his limit, speak to any rochdale fan and no doubt you will get the same,

StanleyJosh · 21-04-2019, 06:50

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Originally Posted by cashman

Go boil yer head its an honest opinion no-one can doubt the achievements J.C. has made they are incredible for a club with our resources, but i am of the opinion hes reached his limit, speak to any rochdale fan and no doubt you will get the same,

What would you do right now then Cashy if you were in charge? (considering contracted, loan, and soon to be out of contract players)
And who would you see fit as his replacement? (Considering resources and budget, so let’s be realistic)

Genuinely interested.
It’s easy to see the negatives, but very rarely have I ever heard someone make a genuine case for improvement.

cashman · 21-04-2019, 07:00

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Originally Posted by StanleyJosh

What would you do right now then Cashy if you were in charge? (considering contracted, loan, and soon to be out of contract players)
And who would you see fit as his replacement? (Considering resources and budget, so let’s be realistic)

Genuinely interested.
It’s easy to see the negatives, but very rarely have I ever heard someone make a genuine case for improvement.

Well for a start ANY manager should be subject to pressure! thats about the only thing i disagree with andy holt about. i have not the experience to sort it out but J.C, is supposed to have any thing should have been tried from half time but as usual NOTHING.

StanleyJosh · 21-04-2019, 07:08

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Originally Posted by cashman

Well for a start ANY manager should be subject to pressure! thats about the only thing i disagree with andy holt about. i have not the experience to sort it out but J.C, is supposed to have any thing should have been tried from half time but as usual NOTHING.

Think Coley has enough pressure, although ageee Holty is a bit OTT with making a guarantee about his job.
Why change it at half time? We ended 1st half and started 2nd half well.

People around me were saying put 2 on up top and go 3 at that back. IMO I think we would have been torn apart if we played 3 at the back for 45 minutes.
Goal difference could be crucial.
No one on the bench made me think, “yeah, they could change the game for us”
Plus if you can argue about Coleys experience, surely you’d want experienced players playing?

StanleyJosh · 21-04-2019, 07:22

How many goals have we conceded this season from not winning the 2nd ball from a set piece.

And what on Earth is Barlaser doing ducking for their 2nd!!!

cashman · 21-04-2019, 07:23

Well how many managers have yeh seen who sit on the wall most of the time? that dont look like hes under that much pressure tome.

StanleyJosh · 21-04-2019, 07:27

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Originally Posted by cashman

Well how many managers have yeh seen who sit on the wall most of the time? that dont look like hes under that much pressure tome.

What has that got to do with anything!?!?
If a manager feels it necessary to be shouting instructions to his players all game, they clearly haven’t worked hard enough in the build up week.

Pressure to keep us in the league as he will have to face deluded fans if not
Pressure to sort out contracts
Pressure to sort out incoming players
Pressure to motivate players not playing
Pressure to deal with injuries (Finley out for season, Barlaser a possibility.)
Pressure to sort out where the squad will train on a daily basis.

Enough?

cashman · 21-04-2019, 07:34

Its been just like that for ever, when he was winning things etc does every manager not have to deal with stuff like that? surely its same at any level.

StanleyJosh · 21-04-2019, 07:40

Exactly. So what’s your point?