Salford

[cashman]

its also easy to kiss ass,

[Willie Miller]

You can’t kiss arse on here mate. I’ve already told you he doesn’t go on it never has. I also reminded you that his brother no longer comes on either because of the lack of respect

You’re old school.

Surely you subscribe to the mantra “don’t type anything you wouldn’t say to his face? “

This is a man that dragged this club from the pub leagues to playing Sunderland on TV and 2 games from Wembley. This is a guy that bleeds red and white. This is a guy responsible for all the best moments following the reds over the last 20 years. You remember what it was like before Coleman? Dog****, pub leagues, playing teams with 50 supporters....

Criticise his selection etc by all means. But the disrespectful “football genius eh” “the messiah” is out of order. This is the greatest period Accy Stanley have ever had. He’s our greatest asset and you’ll prob only realise that when he’s gone

[cashman]

no one i know knocks what he has acheived, that would be disrespectful, also i did not critisise selection i critisise not using any subs when we are doing nothing. the football genius is sung every match, i know quite a few who that certainly tickles. praise is earned as far as im concerned, not just given out, i certainly dont expect him or any manager to get us even higher, but common sense i do expect,

[Exile on Spencer St]

Is this the 5 minute argument or the full half hour in Terry Jones’ memory!

[Twenty Eight]

Originally Posted by Simpson

Reference to Lord D .....
“It's just a case of keeping the faith and not panicking.... and maybe a few extra hours trying to hit a barn door from 10-20 yards.”

I have every confidence in all our strikers hitting a barn door. What separates teams at this level is hitting “a cows arse”.

Time for Coley to invest in more banjos!

Frankly, poor recruitment was called out by many on here before the start of the season. Too many contract favours in lieu of proper scouting for punts which is usually our strength.

100% right my friend. However you can’t keep unearthing diamonds (I use the word carefully) and there will always come a time to invest.
Next season if we survive is going to be an even bigger job for Coley because I can’t see Clark Johnson or Sykes remaining for instance.
But hey you have fans who say que sera sera. Great whatever makes you happy. Nice pitch nice corporate facilities but reducing crowds and no investment in the team. Lost for words. Losing to Salford reserves was the icing on the cake.

[Exile on Spencer St]

I thought the icing on the cake was the season Stanley lost to Guiseley in the Cup

[Willie Miller]

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St

I thought the icing on the cake was the season Stanley lost to Guiseley in the Cup

I think the icing on the cake was Bambwr Bridge drubbing

[Twenty Eight]

I’m talking about the here and now.

[ossy kid]

Difficult to point fingers from 5000 miles away and having to judge by listening to all these opinion so!! #1 Coley is here by merit, 100 per cent, #2 players can have off days but there's never an excuse not to be giving 100 per cent which appears to be the problem with Stanley of late, #3 the best way to remind a player who doesn't give everything is to sit him on the bench, #4 A captains job is to bollock his team mates in to raising their game, hope this is the case. #5 Trust Coley to get us through this rubbish patch.

[Lord Didsbury]

Plenty of clubs that have invested in players, Twenty Eight, and it all turned to ****.

Got to invest in the infrastructure when times are good, cos you can’t do it when times are bad. If andy holt invests more in players it’s just going to push up a wage bill that even now doesn’t get covered by regular income.

May I remind you that we are still a tiny club and that will never change. We will not stay in league one forever and we couldn’t live in the championship. If we get back to league two or the conf and these years have massively improved the ground, have given us a solid financial base and given the fans many seasons to remember it’s all you can ask.

Sadly, that’s the reality. It’s also a reality that we are doing ok, and generally holding our own in league one. No need to change that much, let alone panic.

[DAV007]

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

Plenty of clubs that have invested in players, Twenty Eight, and it all turned to ****.

Got to invest in the infrastructure when times are good, cos you can’t do it when times are bad. If andy holt invests more in players it’s just going to push up a wage bill that even now doesn’t get covered by regular income.

May I remind you that we are still a tiny club and that will never change. We will not stay in league one forever and we couldn’t live in the championship. If we get back to league two or the conf and these years have massively improved the ground, have given us a solid financial base and given the fans many seasons to remember it’s all you can ask.

Sadly, that’s the reality. It’s also a reality that we are doing ok, and generally holding our own in league one. No need to change that much, let alone panic.

Agree 100%

But that shouldn’t mean we are happy with losing to a lesser league 2 club in a competition that has the potential to bring in additional income

[Lord Didsbury]

Doubt if anyone is happy about it, Dav. Just that there’s not much can be done about it. Losing to lower league teams is a fact of life in cup competitions isn’t it?

[andyd]

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

100% right my friend. However you can’t keep unearthing diamonds (I use the word carefully) and there will always come a time to invest.
Next season if we survive is going to be an even bigger job for Coley because I can’t see Clark Johnson or Sykes remaining for instance.
But hey you have fans who say que sera sera. Great whatever makes you happy. Nice pitch nice corporate facilities but reducing crowds and no investment in the team. Lost for words. Losing to Salford reserves was the icing on the cake.

I can remember 1 cold Tuesday night before the Holt era playing Hartlepool infront of just over 900 people including away fans ground dropping to bits toilets not fit for purpose team budget a lot less than now we were on the slide to oblivion and extinction without Mr., Holt's takeover and wise IMHO of money investment in both ground and playing budget we have gone from strength to strength. If we stay up this season great achievement if not we are far better financially to avoid a slip down to the National leagues and even worse oblivion, I know which approach financially I prefer.

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by cashman

no one i know knocks what he has acheived, that would be disrespectful, also i did not critisise selection i critisise not using any subs when we are doing nothing. the football genius is sung every match, i know quite a few who that certainly tickles. praise is earned as far as im concerned, not just given out, i certainly dont expect him or any manager to get us even higher, but common sense i do expect,

true cashy. john coleman might have learned many things in his life in football but making substitutions is something he has never learned. its got to be a standing joke for those around me when the clock reaches a eighty five minuit mark. you know thats its subs time. unless we have an injury it very rarely happens before this. he admits he does not like making subs but its been part of the game for years now.

[yonmon]

Originally Posted by monkey hanger

true cashy. john coleman might have learned many things in his life in football but making substitutions is something he has never learned. its got to be a standing joke for those around me when the clock reaches a eighty five minuit mark. you know thats its subs time. unless we have an injury it very rarely happens before this. he admits he does not like making subs but its been part of the game for years now.

As even the great Jurgen Klopp has discovered to his benefit after many years of insisting that the eleven players starting a match should be on the field at it's ending !.

His subtle use of changing players and formations to match the needs of a game is fascinating to watch. Is it not possible that other Managers, perhaps of lesser stature,
might benefit from following his example ?.