Ethel Carnie Holdsworth, radical & writer

garinda · 21-01-2010, 10:30

Ethel Carnie Holdsworth(1886- 1962)

Born Oswaldtwistle, lived and worked in Great Harwood.

Working class writer, editor, radical, and feminist.

Her 1917 novel Helen of Four Gates, was turned into a silent movie in 1920.

(Thanks to Steeljack for telling me to investigate this significant and important local woman.)

http://www.cottontown.org/page.cfm?p...9&language=eng

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garinda · 21-01-2010, 10:34

Fantastic short clip of the film, Helen of Four Gates,...even if they moved the location from Lancashire to Yorkshire!

Bob Dobson · 21-01-2010, 13:38

She is better known by her maiden name - Ethel Carnie.

garinda · 21-01-2010, 13:52

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She is better known by her maiden name - Ethel Carnie.

Thanks.

That brought up this link, which has the full text of her book of verse Songs of a Factory Girl, if anyone wants to read it.

Full text of "Songs of a factory girl"

steeljack · 21-01-2010, 23:24

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Originally Posted by garinda

(Thanks to Steeljack for telling me to investigate this significant and important local woman.)

Even from my isolation many thousand miles away I do try to bring enlightenment to the starving huddled masses

garinda · 22-01-2010, 00:20

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Even from my isolation many thousand miles away I do try to bring enlightenment to the starving huddled masses

Shut up, and send me a food parcel.

I haven't seen a banana for going on eleven years.

Not wishing to take this woman away from Great Harwood's collective bosom, most evidence does suggest she was born in Oswaldtwistle, and her Wikipedia entry is incorrect.

There was an article in the Lancashire Telegraph about 'Red' Ethel.

‘Red’ Ethel had a way with words

steeljack · 22-01-2010, 00:34

Ossy .... Arrod ....its all Hyndburn, at least she's an 'Accrington and District' Lass or is she from 'Greater Accrington'

Maybe Greg Pope should decide ......he's an Arrod lad

katex · 25-01-2012, 16:32

There is a lecture coming up at Blackburn Library on this lady.

Lecturer Nicola Wilson.
'The Slavery' ... novel by Ethel Carnie Holdsworth.
Friday, 9th March @ 2.00 p.m.

greatharwood · 23-02-2012, 17:12

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Originally Posted by katex

There is a lecture coming up at Blackburn Library on this lady.

Lecturer Nicola Wilson.
'The Slavery' ... novel by Ethel Carnie Holdsworth.
Friday, 9th March @ 2.00 p.m.

Nicola Wilson is giving the same lecture in Great Harwood Library at 10.30 9th March. At 1pm she will be interviewed by Radio Lancashire.

Tha waren't many local radical feminist authors in the early last century so I suppose we 'Arroders won't mind if other communities try to associate themselves with Ethel (in a small and respectful way). Though of course her formative years were spent in the mills of Great Harwood.

garinda · 23-02-2012, 18:33

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Originally Posted by greatharwood

Tha waren't many local radical feminist authors in the early last century so I suppose we 'Arroders won't mind if other communities try to associate themselves with Ethel (in a small and respectful way). Though of course her formative years were spent in the mills of Great Harwood.

Born, bred, and raised in Oswaldtwistle.

She moved with her family to Great Harwood aged six.

In accordance with the Jesuit saying, about 'Give me the child until seven, and I'll give you the man', that makes her already 86% fully formed as a person, when she had the misfortune to relocate.

greatharwood · 23-02-2012, 19:14

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Originally Posted by garinda

Born, bred, and raised in Oswaldtwistle.

She moved with her family to Great Harwood aged six.

In accordance with the Jesuit saying, about 'Give me the child until seven, and I'll give you the man', that makes her already 86% fully formed as a person, when she had the misfortune to relocate.

I hadn't realised there was a religous dimension to her development

You are all welcome to visit for the lecture - easy access via the Hyndburn Circular bus (or whatever its called now). Drops off outside the library.

garinda · 23-02-2012, 19:43

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Originally Posted by greatharwood

I hadn't realised there was a religous dimension to her development

You are all welcome to visit for the lecture - easy access via the Hyndburn Circular bus (or whatever its called now). Drops off outside the library.

Thank you.

Hop on the circular the other way, and I'll give a lecture that really will be worth listening to.