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Tealeaf · 14-09-2004, 16:50

Cheers Atarah...the second photo confirms the date of the first now as being between 1901 and 1906/7 because we now know the street on the left is Market Street. The second piccy, is of course of Market Street, looking from Church towards Ossy. We can be much more specific about the date of this picture because we can see hoarding on the left (previously the site of the telephone shop with the lamp). The hoarding, of course, is there as alteratons are made to curve the building for trams to go round, and we know the tramlines from Church to Ossy werel aid in 1906/7.

Just going back to the first piccy, though....can anyone spot the pub? Not to difficult really...it's the Navigation Arms and it's the building with the bloke stood outside, just on the right hand side of the piccy. Als, no longer with us.

keith · 14-09-2004, 20:20

Going back to the forties our family doctors surgery was under the traffic lights at church facing what was the thenthe churchcouncil offices facing the other side a row of shops and the bus stop to accrington The doctors name I think was pare and our family stayed patients till he died

WillowTheWhisp · 14-09-2004, 21:54

Navigation Arms named after the canal I presume? Could that have been the building with the double arched windows? I can't see too clearly on the photograph I'm afraid.

Darby · 15-09-2004, 05:07

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Originally Posted by keith

Going back to the forties our family doctors surgery was under the traffic lights at church facing what was the thenthe churchcouncil offices facing the other side a row of shops and the bus stop to accrington The doctors name I think was pare and our family stayed patients till he died

Correct Keith, you still have a good memory!

I also use to go to see Dr. Pear...his practice was taken over by Dr. Tuxford sometime in the mid to late 50's. The Bank was on the opposite side of Blackburn road to the doctors surgery.

WillowTheWhisp · 15-09-2004, 07:38

There was another Bank in Market Street, by the bus stop, opposite the Post Office. I worked there.It was great fun. The cellar was liable to flooding and we constantly had to have a pump running to keep the water out. Once or twice it failed and we'd be down there paddling about knee deep in water! We used to have to keep things above a certain level to make sure they would stay dry.

Darby · 15-09-2004, 09:20

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

There was another Bank in Market Street, by the bus stop, opposite the Post Office. I worked there.It was great fun. The cellar was liable to flooding and we constantly had to have a pump running to keep the water out. Once or twice it failed and we'd be down there paddling about knee deep in water! We used to have to keep things above a certain level to make sure they would stay dry.

Didn't that become a Building Society branch office later?? Halifax or something??

It was just up from the bus stop if I remember rightly!

Willow...I didn't know Cellar Paddling was great fun?

WillowTheWhisp · 15-09-2004, 11:32

I'm not sure about that because I transferred to another branch and never went back there. It's been demolished since and is now the site of "Alleytroyds" I don't know if they still get the same stink from Blythes that we used to get in the Bank (or when the wind was in the opposite direction a nice aroma of bone boiling from the glue factory) The chrome fittings on the front door were very pitted too which made you wonder what on earth was in the air.

The demise of the Bank came with the closure of places like Rothwells which used to supply half of our custom.

Ah those were the days, butties at dinner time from Carley's - "built" to specification with as much mustard as you could handle.

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Willow...I didn't know Cellar Paddling was great fun?

Not in the smelly water we got down there it wasn't !!

Atarah · 15-09-2004, 13:25

Hi, tried here to show you the Navigation Arms, well, I think it is. Wont be too clear, but might help you to decipher which building Tealeaf meant. Atarah

WillowTheWhisp · 15-09-2004, 13:38

Well that certainly doesn't have any arched windows.

pendy · 15-09-2004, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Darby

Correct Keith, you still have a good memory!

I also use to go to see Dr. Pear...his practice was taken over by Dr. Tuxford sometime in the mid to late 50's. The Bank was on the opposite side of Blackburn road to the doctors surgery.

Dr Pear delivered about half of the inhabitants in Church before he retired. He could be seen at Old Trafford, in his Panama hat, at every major match, so goodness knows how he found the time.

Keith Tuxford took over from him, as Darby says. They all seemed to be one-man practices in those days. Anyone remember that awful old gas ring with the pan with the rubber tubing and needles boiling in it? - smelt awful, but was probably (hopefully) sterile! In those days, nobody got MRSA (never even heard of it then). Perhaps we should go back to our old sterilisers with the Cheatles forceps, Lettie? - probably before your time!

pendy · 15-09-2004, 15:56

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I'm not sure about that because I transferred to another branch and never went back there. It's been demolished since and is now the site of "Alleytroyds" I don't know if they still get the same stink from Blythes that we used to get in the Bank (or when the wind was in the opposite direction a nice aroma of bone boiling from the glue factory) The chrome fittings on the front door were very pitted too which made you wonder what on earth was in the air.

The demise of the Bank came with the closure of places like Rothwells which used to supply half of our custom.

Ah those were the days, butties at dinner time from Carley's - "built" to specification with as much mustard as you could handle.

Not in the smelly water we got down there it wasn't !!

Willow - are you sure the smell came from the glue-boiling? I seem to remember Kirby's Funeral Parlour was just around there! - in fact, there were two of them, because I seem to remember that the son, Alan I think, fell out with his father and opened his own place almost opposite.

Tealeaf · 15-09-2004, 16:11

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Hi, tried here to show you the Navigation Arms, well, I think it is. Wont be too clear, but might help you to decipher which building Tealeaf meant. Atarah

The Navigation was further down than the buildings indicated in this picture. If you look at the original picture, you'll see (looking in the direction of Blackburn), 3 cottage type buildings, then a large building and then a building sticking out with a bit of a white wall by the side. There is one person, and possibly 2 more stood outside. This is the building I believe to be the Navigation pub.

Wood street used to rum from Market street, round the back of the old Con club, and emerge on Blackburn Rd more or less opposite the Eastern end of the Navigation. That street is still there, although I don't think it's named as such.
Willow, if you pop over there again and line yourrself on the canal side opposite that entrance on Blackburn Rd, then the area back towards Blackburn was the site of the Navigation. If your mysterious piece of wall is on the site then we know what it is; if not, then we shall have to continue enquiries.

The three cottage type buildings, are of course, now the site of the wedding dress place.

WillowTheWhisp · 15-09-2004, 18:26

If the first pic here is the road you are referring to I think we're in the right place. There is another entry but that just seems to lead to a private area.(see second photo)

I took a few more photographs of the wall, (must learn to use less pixels so I can have a larger image) to see if we can work out what was what, but it's hard to get a good angle.

WillowTheWhisp · 15-09-2004, 18:33

Here's my bricked up double arched window again and you can see it is a window as the window sill is clearly visible. You can also see there seem to be corner stones of a building but then the stonework continues on - was the next building built later and tagged onto that one? There is no point along this wall where any part of it protrudes further out than the rest now. (as the pub did)

Atarah · 15-09-2004, 22:33

Hi, tried another time for you - is THIS the Navigation?#

I am lost with the picture of the filled in "window" (with not being a Church person) - please just where do you mean? You aren't looking at the wall that was part of Blythes are you, cos I used to work there, when we went for lunch near the weighbridge. Surely its not a blocked up window belonging to them?