HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc

Atarah · 21-01-2010, 09:26

Katex! Where are you with your Planning Applications? Mr Dawson, can you help?

Just had a phone call from a resident of Baxenden, who lives almost facing Hilltop, which of course is now fenced off, to be demolished.
This property would appear to be either in, or next to, the grounds of Haworth Art Gallery, the "jewel in the crown" of Accrington.

Very sneekily, just a few of the houses across from the site, and a few on Newton Drive, were sent a letter just before Xmas, informing them that a 4 STOREY property for FLATS is to be built. Maybe done because they are loosing around 2 weeks at Xmas time when people have other things on their minds. Apparently anyone wishing to comment has to have a letter in by NEXT MON. Not much time eh? Someone else I have spoken to also believes this is actually in the Christ Church Conservations area, but am not sure on this point.

Anyone know anything about this?

buttonsmum · 21-01-2010, 15:26

I know a lot of people don't buy it these days, but the Observer printed all the details regarding this application in their planning notices section a couple of weeks ago. I'm surprised there hasn't been more publicity about this being as it is creating housing for the elderly

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jelly baby · 21-01-2010, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Atarah

Katex! Where are you with your Planning Applications? Mr Dawson, can you help?

Just had a phone call from a resident of Baxenden, who lives almost facing Hilltop, which of course is now fenced off, to be demolished.
This property would appear to be either in, or next to, the grounds of Haworth Art Gallery, the "jewel in the crown" of Accrington.

Very sneekily, just a few of the houses across from the site, and a few on Newton Drive, were sent a letter just before Xmas, informing them that a 4 STOREY property for FLATS is to be built. Maybe done because they are loosing around 2 weeks at Xmas time when people have other things on their minds. Apparently anyone wishing to comment has to have a letter in by NEXT MON. Not much time eh? Someone else I have spoken to also believes this is actually in the Christ Church Conservations area, but am not sure on this point.

Anyone know anything about this?

Don't think it's in Christ Church Conservation area, it's quite a way up the road from there. Also I don't think the building is the type that would have a preservation order on it, it's a relatively modern building. Something needs doing as I have heard that youngsters are going in there drinking etc and it's in a dangerous condition. Not sure 4 storey flats are the answer though.

claytonender · 21-01-2010, 18:05

The plans are for complex of apartments for people older people (I think it is for over 50's).

I, along with several other councillors went to a presentation in mid October about the scheme.

They will be to a very high specification, and the design of the complex will enhance the area.

Although each apartment will be fully self contained, there will also be areas, where older people can have their meals made etc.

The concept behind, schemes such as this are that even if a persons care needs change, as they grow older, they will still be able to continue living independently, in their own home and help will be available on site.

entwisi · 21-01-2010, 20:32

i'm fully supportive of it. We are trying to get my Mum closer to us and away from teh drug dealing, noisy, anti social behaviour that now happens on the street she has lived on for > 50 years. we also want to make it such that she can see much more of Siobhan and Joesph as its known that such daily contact with family is good for the elderly however the provision of sheltered accomodation round here means a huge waiting list such that she will be lucky to get offered one before she dies.

This is not really a change in purpose or anything else other than knocking down a eyesore building and putting something better in its place.

shillelagh · 21-01-2010, 21:46

According to this weeks accy observer page 23 .. typed by me ...

A presentation on an application to transform a dilapidated baxenden nursing home will be heard at the next meeting of baxenden area management committee. Controversial developers wanting to transform Hilltop Nursing Home on manchester road will be attending the meeting to answer residents questions about their recent application submitted to hyndburns planning committee.

The presentation will include details of how the developers Icare, have scaled down and rejigged their first application after listening to the concerns of residents at a similar meeting last year.

The developers are expected to tell residents they have transformed the way the site will look and be run as well as how they have reduced the number of apartments from more than 100 over 6 storeys, to only 64.

Initially the development was going to remain privatised with each apartment being sold to private owners. The developers now hope the complex will be rented out by elderly residents who need support.

The meeting will be held on Thursday Feb 4th at Baxenden St Johns Primary School off Manchester Road.

No time is given in the paper ..

katex · 21-01-2010, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Atarah

Katex! Where are you with your Planning Applications? Mr Dawson, can you help?

Shucks sorry Entwisi .. did spot this .. meant to put up after their application for demolition .. was the December 25th issue after all...

Sorry .. as nobody commented, didn't think they were interested.

11/09/0475 Conservation area consent: Demolition of Hill Top Home For The Elderly 19/11/2009
former home for elderly and associated
buildings

Manchester Road Accrington

Mr Martyn Ellis __________________

11/09/0525 Major: Full: Demolition of former care home Former Hill Top Care Home 18/12/2009
buildings and erection of a four storey, 64 Newton Drive Accrington BB5
No. care apartments including onsite car 2PW
parking and landscaping (5191m2)
I Care Extra Care Ltd

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Originally Posted by buttonsmum

I know a lot of people don't buy it these days, but the Observer printed all the details regarding this application in their planning notices section a couple of weeks ago. I'm surprised there hasn't been more publicity about this being as it is creating housing for the elderly

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It was discussed a couple of years ago Buttonsmum:

Chance to see development plans - News - Accrington Observer

Hey, this would be perfect for your lovely mum Entwisi !

See Shill's post.

Atarah · 21-01-2010, 22:42

Whats the "64 Newton Drive" bit mean. Are they going to have the main entrance on Newton Drive. I wouldnt be happy if I lived on there, I must be honest.

shillelagh · 21-01-2010, 23:01

think its the amount of flats atarah .. it said in the bit in the accy observer they'd reduced it from 100 down to 64

katex · 21-01-2010, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Atarah

Whats the "64 Newton Drive" bit mean. Are they going to have the main entrance on Newton Drive. I wouldnt be happy if I lived on there, I must be honest.

Sorry Atarah ... they don't copy/paste too well, should have read like this:

11/09/0525 Major: Full: Demolition of former care home 18/12/2009
buildings and erection of a four storey, 64 No. care apartments including onsite car parking and landscaping (5191m2)
I Care Extra Care Ltd

Former Hill Top Care Home,
Newton Drive,
Accrington BB5 2PW

Is late ...

Don't understand the Newton Drive address myself, was it on the corner of Newton Drive and Manchester Road ?

Atarah · 21-01-2010, 23:16

Thanks for explaining that shillelagh and Katex. I seem to recall now that the entrance WAS on Newton Drive.

shillelagh · 21-01-2010, 23:55

yeah it was .. there was an entrance if you were a pedestrian coming off manchester road .. but if in a car you went up on newton drive ... my mum did respite care in there for 2 weeks ...

Atarah · 28-01-2010, 19:44

Still the saga goes on. Two sides to every story of course.
Local residents have been told there will be 74 flats to rent and 8 to buy, i.e. 82, plus ALL the parking spaces required for such a huge amount of people. It is supposedly to cater for people over 55years of age. The developers are supposed to have even tried to get that area of land off Hollins Lane, behind the old stable block in the park (where an old engine was once left to rust and rot away) - but that has been kicked into touch. Why would they have wanted a parking area so far away from the flats anyway?
Concern over Baxenden care home flats plans (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Meeting in St Johns Primary School on Thursday 4th Feb 2010

Atarah · 02-02-2010, 19:53

Have heard this - dont know if true - there have been so many objections to the plans that the developers have been told to rethink and come back with a smaller scheme

katex · 02-02-2010, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Atarah

Have heard this - dont know if true - there have been so many objections to the plans that the developers have been told to rethink and come back with a smaller scheme

Who has told the developers to rethink ?

They have now submitted a full planning application for this site with 64 living accommodations .. they cannot waive from that now.

This will now have to stay I am sure, until it comes up for determination at a planning committee meeting .. 'course I am not sure of this, just thinking logically.

I also suspect that it will not be determined on the 'amount' of objections ... just the type of objection. Could be 50 objecting to extra traffic, 20 for the height, 60 for the 'out of character'... only three types if you understand. This could be rubbish too.

Something to think about ... if they never get planning permission for this build, then the land may be sold to other developers ... and that is ripe for another Tesco Express or perfect for a Travelodge ...

Will ask around.