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I am pretty sure that Rutland Street was off Blackburn Road but can you please help in locating it exactly.

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Thanks Margaret, I used to deliver building materials around the Accrington, back in the last century and have delivered to most streets in the town. I still remember where most of them are but that one had me stumped.

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Good work Margaret.
I was going to suggest going into Google Earth to find the street, but after doing this myself, the only thing that showed up was Rutland Close in Clayton-le-Moors.
It would seem that Google Earth is not by any means the "Bible" for maps.

Cheers
Philip

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You are welcome...glad to be able to help.

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I did the same thing Phillip and now wish I had kept my well thumbed copy of Shurmer's Guide. I am plotting the co-ordinates of all of our census records onto a Google map and need all the help I can get. I have plotted a number of missing streets in both Blackburn and Accrington but Rutland Street had me baffled. As always, the good folks of Accy Web came to the rescue.

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I knew all the roads 30 years or more back and still remember most of them.

I too knew Adrian well as I did a lot of work for him but not on the street guide. He was a great bloke and I will always remember him saying he was too honest to be a politician.

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Was there a little Joiners Shop on Rutland St?:confused:

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A while back I was trying to remember the name of the street between Lonsdale St and Leyland St as friends from school (Peter and Juliet Inksman - actually it might have been spelled Hinksman) lived on the corner of Blackburn Rd and Rutland St. This was back in the early 60's to mid 70's, I often wonder what happened to all these people I knew from around this area. We lived at number 10 Lonsdale St (between 1962-77)

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There must have been hundreds of houses knocked down around there but where did all the people go?

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Several of the streets that Retlaw has mentioned have been demolished. At least one has been re-named. Steiner gave the streets their names, though why he chose Rutland I am unsure. However, it is one of several in the town named after English counties,

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I have fund my notes on Rutland St. They show that , before Steiner owned the land, it was owned by the Peels and Steiner didn't change the name allocated to it at the early planning stage. Some streets on Peel land were given county names, but not in clusters, just occasionally. However it is also possible that the Peels knew Charles Cecil John Manners, 6th Duke of Rutland who was a Conservative cabinet member with and under Lord Derby, a big mate of the Peels. He would be known to the Sir Robert Peel, who was PM in the 1830s & 40s. He was a very wealthy landowner and someone the Accrington Peels would associate with.

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Don't remember a Joiners but there was a Grocers, name of Snape I think, top section.

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Rutland St was on my paper round in the early '50s - from Keneallys (?) on Lonsdale St.

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For the latest mystery location, we move to Ossy and a road I have never heard of. Is anyone familiar with Vale Lane Stanhill?

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Back in Accrington and I am looking to confirm a bit of deduction.
We have an 1891 census for Rough Lee Road Accrington, the houses are listed in order and we get to the unadopted road at the top.

Rough Lee House ( former maternity home is listed)
Quarry Hill House, which I assume is the large house on the left
and then we get to a group of houses listed as Eaton Bank, where the people we are interested in live at number 7.

I am pretty sure that this has to be the large house we can see from Royds Street but I just want to confirm my information and possibly find out more about the history of what looks like what was originally a very large house.

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Thanks Retlaw,

Our chap was William Chapman 1805 - 1904, Assistant manager in a print works, we think it was Broad Oak but the jury is still out.
In 1881, he and his family lived at 10 Hollins Lane, then in 1891, they are at Eaton Place and by 1901 they are round the corner at Holly Bank. Eaton Place and Holly bank are both houses I have never heard of and it is interesting to get some background on the houses themselves. Eaton Bank looks like a big house rather than separate ones.

I am plotting the co-ordinates of all the census records we have, onto a Google Map, only 50 more to do out of over 400, hence why I am at the 'W's.

Is the electors list available online? When we were in Accy library we got a lot of info from the books upstairs.

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How will having the co-ordinates help or be beneficial? I've not heard of this before.

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The section of the Hodgkinson Clark website containing the info is not yet visible as it is a work in progress. I have been down in Accy for the past couple of days due to a family emergency but will post a link to the info when I get time. The coordinates are so that the positions can be plotted on a Google map but it will make more sense when you see the relevant census pages. I have the US and Canadian censuses to do yet but I am getting the UK ones working first.

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It may have been John Simpson who dug out a plaque for us. It was a Roll of Honour from (I think) Avenue Parade Methodist Church. We had asked about it and he knew what we were referring to.

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Yep it must have been John, those Rolls of Honour in the back room are what Bill Turner and I manage to rescue whilst we were reseachin Accy Pals. Unfortunately we didn't manage to rescue all of them, many had been skipped as buildings changed hands or were demolished, what was worst thou, the number of metal ones that had been stolen for scrap value.

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Thanks are due to yourself and Bill for this then. Unfortunately, it was the Roll of Honour we were searching for but having photographed the plaque, it seemed a waste not to include it in our archives.
The Hodgkinson, Clark, Baxter and Lofthouse Archive

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It was the Sunday School Roll of Honour which was mentioned in an article you supplied a few years ago.
The Hodgkinson, Clark, Baxter and Lofthouse Archive

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Bloomin Eck don't remember that, teks m all m time to remember to tek me pills these days.

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There was a family called Peel used to live on dale St in the 50s

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Don't suppose you remember that tenner you borrowed in 1972 either, do you :)

We were down in Accrington for the weekend and had a wander up Avenue Parade, to Peel park. The story I heard was that avenue parade was built as an avenue for the Peel's to get to St James Church but if that is the case, where would they be coming from?

I did a search on Google for this information but Google appears more interested in promoting its advertisers, these days, instead of providing the requested facts. For some reason, when requesting a street's history, Google thinks you want to buy a house there.

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There is a photo of Accrington House which was the home of the Peels in the Heritage and History section dated 26/9/2011, not sure of the way to link that post to this reply.
Mark

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Is it this thread?
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ion-59351.html

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That's the one , thanks

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By the time Rutland St was built, the Peels had sold most of the land along Blackburn Rd from the Grammar School to Church to Frederick Steiner, who had also bought their house in Church bottom of Dill Hall Lane.

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You obviously haven't been to Morecambe for a while, the latest attraction is located at the Entrance to Happy Mount Park where a number of retired firemen can be seen trying to work out if they are going in or leaving.

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The shiny arch at the entrance to Peel Park looked very nice in the sunshine, were the carvings on the pillars to celebrate the millennium or something else?

We didn't do the climb up onto the Coppice as we were limited for time. Last time we were up there, much of the view was obscured by trees, have they left clearings or is it all masked by trees?

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There are benches near the monument where you can see over the tops of the trees

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Great photo

Thanks, it is a few years since I have been up there but good to know that the climb is worth the effort. We are down there again, in a few days time, so may get the time to revisit the playground of my youth.

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