Bulls - Page 3

jaysay · 17-04-2009, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Eric

Agree with you ... this is right up there with "don't play with the cute little bear cub."

Using the premise that cute little bear cuds have bloody great big mummies very near by

Eric · 17-04-2009, 18:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Using the premise that cute little bear cuds have bloody great big mummies very near by

Right first time .... we'll make a woodsman out of you yet

jaysay · 18-04-2009, 09:10

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Originally Posted by Eric

Right first time .... we'll make a woodsman out of you yet

I'm a fast learner Eric, especially where animals are concerned

West Ender · 18-04-2009, 21:37

When we lived in Pickering, North Yorkshire, the lady next door's dad had been killed by a bull. He was leading it through the farmyard and it turned on him and gored him to death.

Benipete · 19-04-2009, 09:17

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Originally Posted by West Ender

When we lived in Pickering, North Yorkshire, the lady next door's dad had been killed by a bull. He was leading it through the farmyard and it turned on him and gored him to death.

Where's Old Tige when you need him?

katex · 19-04-2009, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Where's Old Tige when you need him?

LOL .. had to google that one. Someone told me (after she had been cornered by cattle) that she should have let her dog go, as they would follow him. Dunno' she had the sandwiches.

churchman phil · 19-04-2009, 11:32

ALWAYS let any dog go. It is a major factor with cattle - they don't like 'em!!!

Royboy39 · 19-04-2009, 14:54

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Originally Posted by churchman phil

ALWAYS let any dog go. It is a major factor with cattle - they don't like 'em!!!

No farmer would thank you for taking an untrained dog anywhere near livestock.

churchman phil · 19-04-2009, 18:32

That was in reply to Katex's post and is simply not a case of that Roy. Dogs attract large livestock like cows and horses by virtue of being a curiosity or a threat.
You should ALWAYS have a dog under close control whilst entering any farmland - even if you cannot immediately see livestock it may be hidden by trees, hedgelines or the lie of the ground. However, if any livestock becomes interested in you because of the dog and you are feeling threatened to the point things are getting uncontrollable then you let the dog go. The livestock will try and get the dog away.
People mainly get trampled and killed because they run and fall whilst keeping hold of the dog leash. The livestock will chase you if you run because you have the dog. Letting it go could save your life. It is what any 'expert' would tell you to do too - LET THE DOG GO. It will be ok.
I seriously don't think a farmer would challenge you for saving your life. One everyday pet dog would not be a match for a herd of bullocks or horses.

It is a similar principle as to when people drown trying to save their beloved pet. In nearly every case the dog gets out ok.

Unless, of course, some idiot goes out with a plan to get his large vicious dog to attack livestock which is not what we are talking about.

Royboy39 · 19-04-2009, 19:03

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Originally Posted by churchman phil

That was in reply to Katex's post and is simply not a case of that Roy. Dogs attract large livestock like cows and horses by virtue of being a curiosity or a threat.
You should ALWAYS have a dog under close control whilst entering any farmland - even if you cannot immediately see livestock it may be hidden by trees, hedgelines or the lie of the ground. However, if any livestock becomes interested in you because of the dog and you are feeling threatened to the point things are getting uncontrollable then you let the dog go. The livestock will try and get the dog away.
People mainly get trampled and killed because they run and fall whilst keeping hold of the dog leash. The livestock will chase you if you run because you have the dog. Letting it go could save your life. It is what any 'expert' would tell you to do too - LET THE DOG GO. It will be ok.
I seriously don't think a farmer would challenge you for saving your life. One everyday pet dog would not be a match for a herd of bullocks or horses.

It is a similar principle as to when people drown trying to save their beloved pet. In nearly every case the dog gets out ok.

Unless, of course, some idiot goes out with a plan to get his large vicious dog to attack livestock which is not what we are talking about.

Pet dog or otherwise..........It is not a good idea to go onto farmland with a strange dog.
I agree with let the dog go and I acept your logic on that one.
Having been brought up on a farm not four hundred yards from where you live and being associated with large animals as a butcher, I kniow how danger can come your way with or without dog.
Yes we did have a spate of idiots bringing big dogs onto the farm, not only a danger to owners but to all livestock.
The point I was trying to make in this thread, either ask the farmer permission to go on his land or dont take a dog at all.
Remember a loose dog deemed a danger to livestock can be shot.

churchman phil · 20-04-2009, 07:43

You cannot stop the public walking their dogs on a RoW. If that RoW goes over farmland they are entitled to be there.
A lot of people who have dogs and take them 'walkies' would probably not be aware of rules re dogs in the country. Like I said earlier "those who get trampled are usually dog walkers who run".

I'm not a dog lover personally and think ALL dogs should be kept on a lead under close control AT ALL TIMES - ANYWHERE OUTSIDE. But as a lot of dog-owners are a law unto themselves....

katex · 21-04-2009, 20:58

Spoke to my friend again today CP and passed on your good advice to let the dog go.
Whilst being cornered in this field, she did ring her husband screaming on her mobile, and you have a choice of his reaction:-

1) "I will jump in the car my darling and on will be on my way to come and rescue you immediately".
2) "Will ring the farmer urgently to come and help you"
3) "What the bloodyhell am I supposed to do about it ?"

Yep, you got it ... LOL.

churchman phil · 22-04-2009, 07:49

Oooooh! I like multiple choice questions!! Can I have answer 3 please....?

Seriously, if it helps her not to feel as threatened and thus stops her from running like hell when being followed by bullocks/cows etc then I'm happy to have helped.

Another point to tell her about maybe. If she enters a field with cows and calves in please tell her to stick as close to the edge of the field as possible and DO NOT walk between a cow and it's calf, clapping her hands will get either to move out of the way so she can continue. ALWAYS keeping the dog under close control.