Modern art, art or just a big con ? - Page 2

garinda · 22-07-2007, 15:27

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

Did you talk about Bradford?

No, though we did talk about growing up as 'artistic' children in the north of England.

Tin Monkey · 22-07-2007, 18:16

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Originally Posted by garinda

No, though we did talk about growing up as 'artistic' children in the north of England.

Artistic eh? Is that what they're calling it nowadays?

On topic now, I actually enjoy a lot of 'so-called' modern art. I actually bought a couple of books today on 20th century art and although I'm a long way from being knowledgeable, I'm picking up information here and there.

katex · 22-07-2007, 22:10

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Originally Posted by garinda

Art is really just a concept that induces an emotion

So what emotion would a blank canvass stir up in me cockles then Garinda.
Actually, not really blank, is it ? Must be summat on it ?

By the way, that present Avatar of yours stirs up emotions .. frightens the sh1t outta' me .. talk about the bogey man is coming .. gonna' have nightmares.

cashman · 22-07-2007, 22:24

know where yer coming from steeljack,i see sod all in a white canvas n anyone who says they can i say bulls***, my lad has a "masters" in modern art" n obviously i have tried very hard to get into it, but its still means nowt to me, have visited quite a few exhibitions that he has been part of, seen a few things i like n a lot of crap, hes actually been invited to have his Own exibition in Austria, at some point next year,probably will have to go, ya know how it is,but dont honestly fancy it.

garinda · 22-07-2007, 23:18

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Originally Posted by katex

So what emotion would a blank canvass stir up in me cockles then Garinda.
Actually, not really blank, is it ? Must be summat on it ?

By the way, that present Avatar of yours stirs up emotions .. frightens the sh1t outta' me .. talk about the bogey man is coming .. gonna' have nightmares.

I'm not going to be an appologist for modern art, mainly because there really is no such thing. The very concept of modernism means that it constantly changes. What was modern and contemporary at the begining of the twentieth century is now quite literally antique and dated.

The very first time a blank canvas was exhibited, it created shock and outrage, now it's just passé and derivative.

You could ask yourself how has the canvas been painted? With a small brush, with visible brush marks, or is it perfectly smooth as if it's been sprayed? Is it really white, or are there subtle differences of shade? The painter could be giving all kinds of subtle messages, or he could just be being pretentious. Who knows, or cares?

(I'm sorry Papa Lazarou is frightening you. Don't be afraid, he won't bite.

)

WillowTheWhisp · 23-07-2007, 09:16

Just be thankful you can't hear him speak Katex. That really would give you the willies!

garinda · 23-07-2007, 18:08

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Just be thankful you can't hear him speak Katex. That really would give you the willies!

I do hope you mean Papa Lazarou, and not me!

Gayle · 23-07-2007, 18:47

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Originally Posted by garinda

You could ask yourself how has the canvas been painted? With a small brush, with visible brush marks, or is it perfectly smooth as if it's been sprayed? Is it really white, or are there subtle differences of shade? The painter could be giving all kinds of subtle messages, or he could just be being pretentious. Who knows, or cares?

I saw a blank canvas painting in a gallery once and didn't 'get it' then realised that the shine of the canvas, the angles of the lights and the brightness in the room was creating shadows and reflections on the canvas. The people in the room became the painting.

See, I can talk pretentious claptrap too!

LancYorkYankee · 24-07-2007, 23:55

Look on the bright side of this art exhibit Rindy. You may be able to get back to your painting again. I'm sure you could do something as artistic even with the dreaded shakes that forced you away from you first love.

Brian

cashman · 25-07-2007, 00:14

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Originally Posted by Gayle

See, I can talk pretentious claptrap too!

ya just gotta go into politics then gayle!

Zero · 25-07-2007, 13:34

Definitely art with a capital F

To me art needs to involve at least some amount of creativity and imagination. Andre`s Bricks, Hursts Sheep, tins of "Merde d`artiste", or a deflated balloon masquerading as the Breath of the artist are all absolute toss, but it`s the pretentious phuckwits who make it multi million pound trinkets and not just non recyclable waste.
Offering a blank, or white undercoat canvas as art to me is an insult to human intelligence and the people who try to look for some underlying hidden concept in the basic talentless lazyness of it all are the morons who will guarantee more of this tripe. Presumably the numbty who made this has done something previously to make a name for themselves but I for one don`t give a hoot.

garinda · 25-07-2007, 15:50

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Originally Posted by Zero

Definitely art with a capital F

To me art needs to involve at least some amount of creativity and imagination. Andre`s Bricks, Hursts Sheep, tins of "Merde d`artiste", or a deflated balloon masquerading as the Breath of the artist are all absolute toss, but it`s the pretentious phuckwits who make it multi million pound trinkets and not just non recyclable waste.
Offering a blank, or white undercoat canvas as art to me is an insult to human intelligence and the people who try to look for some underlying hidden concept in the basic talentless lazyness of it all are the morons who will guarantee more of this tripe. Presumably the numbty who made this has done something previously to make a name for themselves but I for one don`t give a hoot.

Oh dear. Ms. Rindy's blank canvas has certainly provoked an emotion, which sadly means by my definition that it must be art.