Smoking ban......(Hmmmm)

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by gpick24

For thirty odd years it was the response of smokers to me - "if you don`t like my smoke go and stand outside", now the boots on the other foot they don`t like it.

Fair enough. If you come to visit us I know what to say now.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I cannot recall ever being treated like that by smokers.

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Fair enough. If you come to visit us I know what to say now.

As far as private residence go, that`s fair enough.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I cannot recall ever being treated like that by smokers.

Perhaps you are more pleasant to have as company?

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by Less

Perhaps you are more pleasant to have as company?

No perhaps about it.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Less

Perhaps you are more pleasant to have as company?

I try to be.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by gpick24

For thirty odd years it was the response of smokers to me - "if you don`t like my smoke go and stand outside", now the boots on the other foot they don`t like it.

So, what began as a health "issue" has morphed into petty vindictiveness ... fascinating.

[Accyexplorer]

I don't think it's about health,if it's was they'd ban cars themselves
Is a car deemed a "public place"?
The Interior Of Your Car Is A Public Place | JONATHAN TURLEY
And being enclosed, deemed a 'enclosed public space'?
If that's the case it's been illegal to smoke in cars (regardless of age) since they restricted smoking in 'enclosed public places'.I dont recall seeing much of that being enforced.
Enforcing this silliness will only take away from more serious traffic issues.
Maybe advice over enforcement is the answer.
It's obvious you don't smoke in a car with a child,my uncle back in the day is about the only person I've seen do it

[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Will the ban cover Ecigs?

"e-cigs pose no danger to your health, or others, with no tar, or carcinogens passed on via passive smoking. So the advice is to use E-Lites electronic cigarettes to avoid the smoking ban in cars".-http://www.e-lites.co.uk/smoking-ban-in-cars.

"There*are*many*myths*and*misconceptions*about*ele ctronic*cigarettes.*Let's*separate*fact*from*ficti on".
http://casaa.org/uploads/8_Biggest_E...ette_Myths.pdf

ah but, e-lites and Cassa both have a vested interest in the selling and use of E Ciggies,
Personally I could not care less if you smoke them.
But there is no real control so no one really knows what the long term effects will be.

Just a thought, but this sopunds similar to the stuff Big Tobacco comes out with.

[Accyexplorer]

We don't really have a say in the matter,Stephen Fry, Chris Tarrant,David Hockney, Tory MP Boris Johnson and Bob Geldof to name a few all opposed the smoking ban in 2004 even writing a letter claiming:-

(Edit - Please can I remind people that copy and pasting text from BBC sites is not allowed, posting a link to the story is ok - Neil )

BBC NEWS | UK | Stars oppose public smoking ban

What's folks thoughts on separating kids into a space where they won't be at risk (for instance the boot) or like taxis do have a glass/plastic divide?

[Boeing Guy]

Lets face it both the Anti Smoking Nazi's (Ash) and the Big Tobacco lobby (Forrest) will use statistics and studies to their benefit.
Of course Celeb's have a right to say what they like, but again they are biased, just as we are, non smokers will prefer not to breath in secondhand smoke and have their clothes smelling of smoke just as smokers want to smoke where they want.

As to separate children area's, I am all for it, but could we extend it to pubs/restaurants/ shopping centres etc so those of us who do not want to be assualted by Britney/Robbie etc

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by Eric

So, what began as a health "issue" has morphed into petty vindictiveness ... fascinating.

Not vindictive, just an observation.

[Less]

What a waste of server space, was there really a need to copy and paste that & put a link on?
The link would have done.
By the way, I have reported the post because the BBC don't mind links being put on but do object to using the content.
The site has been threatened by them with legal action before now, please be careful, oh, make sense as well, the post of village idiot is filled and I don't think c'mon plans to leave just yet.

[Less]

Originally Posted by gpick24

Not vindictive, just an observation.

Perhaps, a vindictive observation?

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by Less

Perhaps, a vindictive observation?

More a drunken one.