Would you give permission for your childs pic to go public?

cherokee · 28-12-2008, 21:53

Ok first im not having a dig at emmamum here or flashy either, but after reading the debate betwen flashy and emmamum in the photo thread it got me thinking.
Would you allow a pic of your child to be put on a public website?

I did a collection of parcels for the soldiers a few weeks ago at a speacial needs school over here, and to get pics and be able to put them on our sos website the teacher had to hand pick a handful of children whose parents had given permission for them to be photographed and believe me it wasnt that many. 5 or 6 tops out of a school of aprox 150.

My daughter dosent allow our grandsons pic to be posted online and i personally agree with her, although my other grandchild is posted willy nilly on the net by her mum which I think is pretty disguting given her age.

Now I agree that the world has gone mad and the do gooders have gone overboard with not allowing parents to take pics say at nativity plays and school concerts, I was gutted when my own daughter had one opportunity dancing at the Grand Theatre and I couldnt video her or take a pic and to make it worse even an organised vid wasnt done so all I have is a memory of that night. Her dad dosnt even have that.

Where should the line be drawn?

forceten · 28-12-2008, 22:10

I couldn't take a video of primary school children (of which my daughter was one) singing christmas carols last year at Blackburn Catherdral.

But I could do at school.................the head master asked if anybody had any objections and nobody had so I went ahead.

I don't post alot of pics of my children on the net, and I'm careful where I do post them.

But one thing I will say.............I use the name forceten on here, and yes, perhaps alot of people may know my name, but to have it mentioned in threads that people reply to I think is bang out of order.

If I wanted to post under my name then I would do, so why then do people think it is ok to use your real name on replies?

cashman · 28-12-2008, 22:14

happily this was not n issue when mine were kids, but even way back then my answer would have been no way. but to each his own i always say.

SPUGGIE J · 28-12-2008, 22:19

Me I would say that it would be a resounding NO!!!!! This is a personal opinion but in this day and age with the instant access to information pictures etc by anybody then better to be safe than sorry.

cherokee · 28-12-2008, 22:21

When all mine were at junior school cashy it wasnt an issue then
Now I do have pics etc of the nativity plays and its great to look back on them, and although the net thing wasnt an issue then either if it had been I would have prob had said no to pics online then.
Thats what i mean when I ask where should the line be drawn? I think parents should be allowed school vids for home only of plays concerts etc or at least the school should do an organised one with the children whose parents have granted permission.
I would be gutted had I not been allowed mine when they were younger

flashy · 28-12-2008, 22:39

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Originally Posted by forceten

But one thing I will say.............I use the name forceten on here, and yes, perhaps alot of people may know my name, but to have it mentioned in threads that people reply to I think is bang out of order.

If I wanted to post under my name then I would do, so why then do people think it is ok to use your real name on replies?

sorry Florence, i really shouldnt call you by your real name on here, please forgive me

my child is MY child, i will put him on what i see fit but i would be totally outraged if someone else did it without my permission

garinda · 28-12-2008, 23:27

The answer is no.

I wouldn't let strangers into my house to leaf through a family photo album, so why would I let them be viewed on the internet?

I do put photographs of myself on Facebook, which are now only accessible to 'friends'. Some of those friends I've never met though, so that's a little weird too.

garinda · 28-12-2008, 23:34

If you think about it the whole thing is strange.

It's like that game, Six Degrees of Separation.

On a social networking site, a couple of clicks later you can be looking at the most intimate family photographs and videos of people you don't know...but sometimes there are enough clues given to easily identify them.

I find the whole thing a bit odd.

Neil · 29-12-2008, 00:05

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Originally Posted by cherokee

My daughter dosent allow our grandsons pic to be posted online and i personally agree with her, my other grandchild is posted willy nilly on the net by her mum which I think is pretty disguting given her age

Why is it so disgusting?

How many people see the child in Asda or walking down the street? I don't see why some of you are so scared of people seeing children.

Please can someone explain why we have this photo phobia? All it is doing is ruining the memories of our children's childhood.

At what age do you think it is ok to post pictures of people on websites?

Why is it so different to the school photo's we see printed in the Observer?

shillelagh · 29-12-2008, 00:18

Im guilty of posting my great nephew online but i did ask mums permission first and it was an old photo .... he is now nearly 6. But do agree with flashy ... all pics of kids should have their parents permission each and everyone. Even if a parent has given permission to have their photo taken at school it does not mean that it can be posted on a website.

K-P · 29-12-2008, 02:11

There are no laws regarding taking pictures of children.. there are no laws regarding putting pictures on the internet. Anyone can take a pic of anyone elses kids and publish them online

On private property its up to the person who owns/in charge to make up there own rules re who can take photographs.. to this end such as schools will do the permission thing before letting anyone take pics.

You should all be aware that in public anyone can take any pics of you or your children and do what they want with them.. there are some restrictions re commercial use but only if you or your child is the prominant feature of the pic.

My own personal opnion is that there should be laws.... But I seem to be in the minority on that one amongst photographers

blazey · 29-12-2008, 02:49

Since law has been brought up, and I work with kids, I know that many places have policy which doesnt print childrens full names or names at all under picutres.

It is particularly in place for when people have injunctions against people to protect their childrens safety, so that if they come across a picture of a child in a newpaper or whatever, they may think there is a chance but it isn't as blatantly obvious as when a name is underneath the picture.

The department that I work for at the university had an issue a few years back where they made the mistake of printing a little girls name under the picture in their publication for a summer course or something like that and she had to go through an unpleasant experience where her father tracked her down... not very nice. So we safeguard children that way.

We also have rules against taking pictures. We aren't allowed to take them unless asked to by whoever is supervising us, children have to have consent forms off their parents. There are even rules about being in pictures with the students themselves but this isfor our protection as well as theres.

What do I think about the internet and photographs? Well, I think intimate pictures such as your kids splashing nude in the bath or whatever should definitely not go on the internet... though saying that... my friend at uni has a picture of himself as a child in the bath with his sister... so it makes me wonder... are we bothered about paedophiles having material to get kicks out of like this, or are we only concerned when the child in the photo is still a child... I don't have the answer to that... but I wouldn't hesitate about putting similar pictures of myself up, but then if I'm not being abused in the picture then am I being abused if the picture is used for that?

I have very liberal views on these things anyway and I suppose one would call me 'lenient' though obviously I find it wrong just like anyone else, just find it a more interesting phenomenon I guess than some people who obviously just think of it in a purely criminal way. More in the sense of how a psychologist might like to look at it I guess. If I had time I'd like to read more into these things but I just don't.

K-P · 29-12-2008, 03:21

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Originally Posted by blazey

Since law has been brought up, and I work with kids, I know that many places have policy which doesnt print childrens full names or names at all under picutres..

Thats not law.. thats guidelines

theres lots of them about and they all read the same.. dont print names wiht pictures.. think about the pose and can it be edited blah blah

steeljack · 29-12-2008, 04:44

lets be honest, 99.999% of most folks have absolutly no interest in looking at pictures of children they dont know , would go so far as to say that most folks think other folks kids are ugly brats probably in need of a smack , only your own are cute ,
As for the argument it allows 'psycho' parents to track down their own kids , its probably in most cases the custodial parent who has psychlogical problems . A child is the product of two people and unless EXTREME circumstances exist (in which case the offending parent should by neccessity be under supervised care) there should be no problem with the childs image appearing in the media .
All this blather about cameras not being allowed at nativity plays etc. is just another example of mass hysteria (think Dianas funeral) and just shows how gullible/stupid/dumb some folks are, and how they are easily led by the unscruplous media and politicians

entwisi · 29-12-2008, 06:44

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Originally Posted by Neil

Why is it so disgusting?

How many people see the child in Asda or walking down the street? I don't see why some of you are so scared of people seeing children.

Please can someone explain why we have this photo phobia? All it is doing is ruining the memories of our children's childhood.

At what age do you think it is ok to post pictures of people on websites?

Why is it so different to the school photo's we see printed in the Observer?

Well said Sir!

Goodness me, if the child is clothed why the heck not. You see children anywhere and everywhere, its not like there is something to hide here. Teach the kids to not talk to strangers and you have nothing to worry about.

I recently went to Siobhans first Nativity at the Nursery. I asked if it was OK and ended up being unofficial school photgrapher and videographer. Copies of all pictures were given back to the school for free distribution amongst the parents. The video I'm still working on but will be given back the same.