11 Plus - Page 5

Eric · 01-07-2008, 20:26

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Originally Posted by blazey

Yes Accy's jumped down and Lancaster's jumped up.

And yes Shakermaker, I apologise for my terrible use of the English language there, I really must stop posting when exhausted, I've noticed I do these things a lot when I am getting tired!

By the way hon, how did the exams go? Or do you know yet? I hope everything went

andrewb · 06-07-2008, 17:44

8/8.. Nothing there that I shouldn't have been able to do at 11.. uses common sense rather than things you have to learn.

Loz · 06-07-2008, 17:47

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Originally Posted by andrewb

8/8.. Nothing there that I shouldn't have been able to do at 11.. uses common sense rather than things you have to learn.

Ok not everybody is flipping Einstein you know!

jambutty · 06-07-2008, 18:38

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Originally Posted by andrewb

8/8.. Nothing there that I shouldn't have been able to do at 11.. uses common sense rather than things you have to learn.

So English grammar and arithmetic is common sense is it?

Actually your score was 7/8. I know that the questionnaire assumed that you would write a story about a scarecrow and gave the point anyway, but surely a bright young thing like you would want to write a story and genuinely qualify for 8/8?

katex · 06-07-2008, 20:19

Jambutty is correct Andrew .. this is just a shortened version of what was the 11+ included all types of areas, not just the logical/common sense side.

The 11+ was usually a few hours long, split into 2 periods (if I can remember correctly).

Know my son to get into a Grammar School (Ok .. 15 years ago, but after 11+ had finished) .. had to do a 3 hour exam to get in there.

andrewb · 06-07-2008, 20:33

Then I take it back if that's not the full thing. I probably wouldn't have been able to write a story, my spelling and grammar have always been terrible!

jambutty · 06-07-2008, 20:59

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Then I take it back if that's not the full thing. I probably wouldn't have been able to write a story, my spelling and grammar have always been terrible!

At 11 years of age spelling and grammar would not be such a big issue. However the content of the story and how it was structured would.

However if your forte is going to be politics, then brushing up on your grammar and spelling should be a high priority.

polly · 07-07-2008, 08:24

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Originally Posted by jambutty

At 11 years of age spelling and grammar would not be such a big issue. However the content of the story and how it was structured would.

However if your forte is going to be politics, then brushing up on your grammar and spelling should be a high priority.

Actually nowadays for the local state grammar school pupils do not do story or any free writing. They do however have passages where they have to pick out the spelling, punctuation and grammatical mistakes.

jambutty · 07-07-2008, 11:32

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Originally Posted by polly

Actually nowadays for the local state grammar school pupils do not do story or any free writing. They do however have passages where they have to pick out the spelling, punctuation and grammatical mistakes.

That’s a pity because getting pupils to write stories exercises their imagination as well grammar, punctuation and spelling.

Compared to being creative, finding someone else’s mistakes is easy.

Maybe that is one of the reasons why modern youth is so destructive (not all of course)? They haven’t learned to create, just destroy.

katex · 07-07-2008, 12:08

Actually Jambutty pretty sure was no story writing in the 11+ when I took it, but as described by Polly.

Only when you get to secondary that some schools look at the structure and imagination more .... not at a Grammar School though, they are still strict about spelling and punctuation, plus the structure of course.

shakermaker · 07-07-2008, 17:29

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Originally Posted by jambutty

That’s a pity because getting pupils to write stories exercises their imagination as well grammar, punctuation and spelling.

Compared to being creative, finding someone else’s mistakes is easy.

Maybe that is one of the reasons why modern youth is so destructive (not all of course)? They haven’t learned to create, just destroy.

Rather a sweeping (and incorrect) remark that, jambutty.

maxwell silver · 07-07-2008, 17:45

Grammar school for me.Six scored.Deja vu.

jambutty · 07-07-2008, 17:46

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Originally Posted by katex

Actually Jambutty pretty sure was no story writing in the 11+ when I took it, but as described by Polly.

Only when you get to secondary that some schools look at the structure and imagination more .... not at a Grammar School though, they are still strict about spelling and punctuation, plus the structure of course.

I can’t remember my 11+ back in 1948 but the book of quizzes was listing exams from the 40’s and 50’s.

It does state, “Test your knowledge with these genuine questions from the original eleven-plus.” So the questions would have come from those eras and unless they have got it all wrong, included write a short story.

jambutty · 07-07-2008, 17:54

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Rather a sweeping (and incorrect) remark that, jambutty.

Which remark would that be?

There are three remarks and one question. It can’t be the question because a question cannot be wrong.

Rather than trying (and failing) to take a poke at me and what I post, you really should try first of all finding your brain (you could be sat on it), then engaging it before going anywhere near your keyboard.

So mush back in the creche.

shakermaker · 07-07-2008, 18:04