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Is anyone else watching the programme on Channel 5 that is giving this area a bad name?

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I have just started a thread about it too - gripping isn't it?

PS beat you to it by 3 minutes :D

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Watching it now, Gayle.........from between my fingers with my hands over my face.

Hideous, isn't it. :(

Footage taken on Mad Friday (last Friday before Christmas)

Hope there's no Accywebbers on. ;)

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It is awful. I used to go out drinking in Blackburn but never remember anything like this.

Then again, I was always the drunk that was curled up in a corner asleep. :D

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I think it might have had a bad name before this programme!!

:hidewall:

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Recording it, sounds like it could be worth watching. Don't think it can be any worse than other towns I have seen featured. The fighting makes me cringe and a lot of the time the girls/women are worse than the boys/men:o

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Don't need to hide behind a wall....Blackburn is the pit's.
I was born in Blackburn and cringe when I hear Straw on his soapbox.
The police can't get a grip because their hands are tied.
The central police station is no longer in the centre.
Bus drivers are assaulted, Taxi drivers are mugged and poor Johnny, according to his brief, didn't mean to do it honest,
Where do the priorities lie? Fixed penalties for smoking in a van or sorting out these would be hardmen and women who think they can get away with murder?
Going out at night to your popular haunt is no longer an option.
Where the hell are we going?

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For those who have missed it (and Royboy :D) you can see it here-
Demand Five | watch television on demand - Channel 5 TV

They announced that at the end - might be available tomorrow

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Thanks Margaret.

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I seemed to have missed an announcement by the government over the years, as the programme was called CCTV Cities and the commentator referred to Blackburn City centre :confused:

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Hey come on Davie Baby..........Blackburn has got a Cathederal and should be a city:confused:

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Just testing.....the only Catherdral in Burnley is the Boot.

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Most cities are dumps for the dross of society.
Who in their right minds would live in any city centre.
Nowt wrong in being a 'hick from the sticks'

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you seriously think it has a good name?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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...but only in Britain. It's not standard behaviour in the city centres of Madrid, Paris, Rome or even New York. So what's gone wrong with this country?

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I assume the program is that one called CCTV Cities? Il have a look tonight though I doubt I'll be surprised.

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Only when the last pub shuts will the problem end
The alkies will then be giving their neighbours aggro instead
At least it disperses the problem so we all get a bit :rolleyes:

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Tough on crime tough on the causes of crime:eek:

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nowt to do with pubs,they are just n outlet fer yobs who have no values or morals thanks to the ******* who dictate how we should treat em when captured.:rolleyes:

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So what about the rest of us who like to enjoy a few beers in a pub, while causing no harm to anybody? Are we meant to suffer because the government is too gutless to tackle the problem? And if pubs are the problem, then how come plenty of other countries have an abundance of licenced outlets without the disorder that is now standard in this country?

Whether I'm in Barcelona or Chicago, I always get the distinct impression that the police and the authorities would not tolerate the type of behaviour we have here for five minutes, human rights or no human rights!

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Why did they move the Police station, To the Boulavade,

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I used to enjoy the pub social scene too.

There have always been some people who overdrink, get aggressive on it, and spoil it for the rest. They now are more concentrated into the fewer pubs that are left, so that trouble is no longer occasional but inevitable.

Apart from the shoplifting druggies on that programme, all the people causing hassle were drunk.

The people who can't behave under the influence of alcohol should be given an injection which will cause any alcohol intake to make them violently sick.

I know that some will consider this as a breach of their civil liberties, but it will be cheaper than free board in an HMP holiday camp, where they will have NO liberty

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heres one that dont think its a breach margaret, more like a bloody good idea.;)

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The whole issue of drink-fuelled disorder is just part of the wider problem about how we pussyfoot around thugs, criminals and various other undesirables in this country.

However, I would agree that the big breweries have a lot to answer for. This whole problem started way back in the late 60's when the breweries realised that youngsters had a lot of disposable income which they were spending on clothes, records and in unlicensed outlets like coffee bars. They decided to cynically go for that market with the end result that we now have town centre bars which are basically teenage gin palaces. And they have fuelled the problem with their cheap drink offers aimed at inticing youngsters to drink far more than they can handle.

The government should initiate a twin approach - crack down on the drinks industry and crack down on the thugs. They won't though, because it's a valuable source of tax revenue and, as Jambutty said in another thread, the licensed trade has a strong lobby in parliament...and because the end effects of the problem don't actually affect them, away in their tax-payer funded ivory towers. :(

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But it isn't just in Britain is it? There was a programme on R4 the other day that was reporting an increase in this kind of behaviour in other European capitals. I can't remember the full list, but France and Germany were two countries that were expressing concerns.

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Ya TM but these countries know how to deal with it, and they don't have an army of bleeding heart brigade dogooders to placate, before they get started. How many times do we see news footage from places like France and Germany where they use the water cannon on these louts and scumbags, they don't hang around long if they're drenched from head to foot and it also tends to help in the sobering up process too

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It isn't on the boulevard it is at Whitebirk.:)

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I've been in three foreign cities in the last couple of years and I haven't seen a sign of it. If you were in Madrid or Paris or Rome this coming weekend, I bet you would see nothing like the mayhem that is just standard procedure for most UK towns and cities. The only places on the continent you will see it are the Spanish resorts where tourists from this country go!

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i missed the programme last night but. my mum taped it fo me so ill be watching it tonight.

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No Bernadette, the Police Station in Blackburn is in the Train Station, just off the boulevard. Greenbank control centre is at Whitebirk - that's the local headquarters, where the admin staff are and where the CCTV are based.

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Well I never knew that, you learn something new everyday

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not available to folks outside of the UK

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Repeated on August 3rd, on fiver, SKY Channel 182 at 9pm.

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If we want to see violence, mayhem, bloody encounters, knock down, drag out blood letting, we have to watch hockey;)

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If any expats want to see it just to have a glimpse of their hometown - bear in mind that widescale demolition of Blackburn centre has been happening since the film was made

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I'm in my right mind ... well almost .... and I live in downtown Kingston. No problem. And we have seven major prisons in the area:eek: Also we have a large military base, and a large university to fuel the party crowd. On weekends, if anyone gets out of hand, the KPD, tosses the culprits into a cruiser, and off to the drunk tank. There is always a strong police presence when the drunks are out in force ... and the coppers don't stay in their cruisers, they are out on the streets keeping an eye on things. I don't think the police here have things under control because they are armed and brutal, they just do their jobs, and they have the support of most of the community. If anyone gets out of hand, he is face down on the sidewalk, the cuffs are on, and it's off for a night in the slammer; and if there are charges other than drunkeness, they stay there until the bail hearing. Sure we have our civil rights laid out in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms .... but being a drunken asshole is not considered a "right".

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I used to be a regular round blackburn at the weekend, i cant remember it being like that either, but like you the end of the night was a bit of a blur :)

My question is, when did they start letting people dress like that in the pubs round town, a grown man in a white shell suit !!! what a plonker haha

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It seems that in Torquay they intend to make drunks mop up their P
Police plan to force drunks to clean up mess on streets with mops | Mail Online
I say LICK it up would be better :D

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well gotta say i like the "Downtown Kingston" way.

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What went 'wrong' was we lost our social control mechanism eg religion. the first 3 Cities you mention still the Catholic church leading their behaviour and this covers alcohol consumption, not just directly but also in the form of family values.

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just watched it and yup thats a typical weekend night in blackburn but its not usualy as busy

i like how they bigged blackburn up at the very begining by saying " theres no where to hide in this city "

blackburn isnt a city its a town but i guess that dosnt sound as good lol

well i think its a town but it certainly isnt a city thats for sure and no matter how hard they try to merge accrington with blackburn to make it a city we dont want to be part of that crap hole thankyou very much :rolleyes:

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You missed out Mars bars and Kit Kats:jimbo:

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Sorry Polly, but I dont think your logic works, seem to remember that Dublin is also Catholic city . ;) ;)

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I don't think you can blame the demise of society on religion polly, Its the general lake of any sort of respect being shown for authority which is to blame. How many times do we hear the Dogooders say that we shoud respect children, in my day children earned respect, and I didn't have to be kicked sencless with my parents to attain this, it was just a natural progress throuhout my youth

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I'm only reciting what was reported via Radio 4, who in turn were reporting on concerns coming from European cities.

To be honest, I could equally say that in the last year I've spent a number of weekends in British cities (including London) and not seen anything like the kind of behaviour focussed on in these types of TV programmes.

I'm not denying that there are issues, but I don't think they are purely British nowadays and I don't believe that every other country is some kind of Utopia.

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Good point ... and I think that the key word is "focus" ... there is no such thing as complete factual reporting .... the cameras are pointed in a particular, and fairly exclusive direction ... and the whole thing is edited to make a particular point.

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As anyone who has visited Dublin in the last 5 years knows the city is no longer a Catholic heaven but a mish mash of cultures and relgions.
In fact it is very difficult to find an Irish person in Dublin centre

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No I don think the demise of society lies whole with the demise of religion, it is with the demise of religious values and the type of religion is almost irrelevant.

It is the lose of any type of social control, be that through socal workers or who or whatever

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Maybe not a utopia, but it's great to able to go out for a few late night drinks and a meal with your partner in a foreign city and not be confronted by mobs of half-witted drunken oafs who are looking to abuse innocent bystanders both verbally and physically. I've been out in Chicago, Rome and Turin in the last couple of years and not seen a hint of trouble. I've also been out in Manchester, Liverpool and London and seen the sort of mayhem that is now characteristic of nightlife in this country.

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I think one of the factors is that the majority of the foreign cities that you mention have an evening culture of going out to eat with friends.

I think we've got a culture in the UK where going out to get drunk is the be all and end all of the evening out.

I'm not saying that there aren't drunks around but people sitting down and eating are more sociable than going out just to get drunk.

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Maybe you're going to the wrong kind of places Wynonie? Or maybe you're the catalyst and it's all your fault? ;) :D

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I don't think this is the case .... everywhere there are those who want to go out for a meal and a few brewskies, but there are also those who want to get liquored up ... Kingstonians party like crazy on Saturday night, it's just that the coppers keep a lid on the wilder elements, and are not afraid of busting their asses to the slammer. And there are the beat cops, who get right in there with the crowds, chat to them, let them know they are around and watching ... and if things get out of hand, a bunch of young patrol officers, strong sturdy lads, show up and sort things out. I think it is all a question of policing.