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Sara 04-11-2009 18:06

Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again.

Poppy Outrage - ITV Granada Reports

Was so annoyed when i heard it on the news, especially on a day when 5 soldiers was killed and a number wounded.

cashman 04-11-2009 18:07

Poppy Ban
 
just been on BBC Northwest that "Bodycare" at Wigan have banned staff from wearing Poppies, this i think is disgraceful.:mad: Management refused to comment to the Beeb, the lady who had worked fer 8 yrs fer em, was told if she returned to work tomorrow wearing it she will face disciplinary action, Paris n I have always used this shop, it will sunshine in hell before we ever use it again, i would hope many people in britain feel the same n it follows "Woolies" into Oblivion.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Sara 04-11-2009 18:12

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Put a thread up about this myself at the same time. I'm with you on not shopping there again.

Eric 04-11-2009 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 760510)
just been on BBC Northwest that "Bodycare" at Wigan have banned staff from wearing Poppies, this i think is disgraceful.:mad: Management refused to comment to the Beeb, the lady who had worked fer 8 yrs fer em, was told if she returned to work tomorrow wearing it she will face disciplinary action, Paris n I have always used this shop, it will sunshine in hell before we ever use it again, i would hope many people in britain feel the same n it follows "Woolies" into Oblivion.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Unbelievable:eek: I see that management refused to comment; so, what is the reason for the ban:confused: I know that you guys have more than your fair share of political correctness; but what in hell's name could be advanced as justification for insulting what one WWl poet called "the millions of the mouthless dead" and all those who came back with pieces missing from their bodies and their souls. The store shouldn't be boycotted; it should be burnt to the ground .... and let's toss "management" into the flames for good measure.

mattylad 04-11-2009 18:18

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What you need to do is not just stay away, you need to make the management aware that you will not shop there again.

Thats the only way they are going to know about it.

Eric 04-11-2009 18:22

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I just read that the store bans the wearing of "charity emblems" ... since when was a poppy a "charity emblem"?

Sara 04-11-2009 18:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mattylad (Post 760514)
What you need to do is not just stay away, you need to make the management aware that you will not shop there again.

Thats the only way they are going to know about it.

I have tried to find the contact info for bodycare to do exactly that. But cannot find the details anywhere. So if anyone does find the addres could they either please post it or PM me. Thanks

Lace 04-11-2009 18:46

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It seems they have had a change of heart. A statement was read out on behalf of the company on Granada Reports stating that, after consideration, they believe that the poppy is an exception, and staff will be allowed to wear them.

I should think so too!!

cashman 04-11-2009 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace (Post 760526)
It seems they have had a change of heart. A statement was read out on behalf of the company on Granada Reports stating that, after consideration, they believe that the poppy is an exception, and staff will be allowed to wear them.

I should think so too!!

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Manchester | Store bans staff wearing poppies as far as we are concerned, it should never have happened,to be considered, they can stuff their shops from our point of view.

Lace 04-11-2009 19:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 760529)
as far as we are concerned, it should never have happened,to be considered, they can stuff their shops from our point of view.

I totally agree with you, its disgraceful

Sara I found an address for their parent company:
GR & MM Blackledge Plc, 9 Western Avenue Matrix Park Leyland Lancs PR7 7NB

steeljack 04-11-2009 19:02

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The biggest problem with this sort of stuff is the fact that when companies or Councils introduce these asinine rules which are later overturned no one is held responsible , usually its an spokesperson (spin-control) who responds , my thinking is the clown (Business-person, Councillor, Council employee ) who made the original decision should be named and shamed , and have their photos published in the local media so the folks know what type of person their neighbour is . :eek: :eek:

katex 04-11-2009 19:02

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Well, they have backed down Cashy, and understand your feelings, however, if everyone ostracised this shop, then where does it leave the shop assistants who showed defiance in the first place ? Out of a job ?

cashman 04-11-2009 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 760533)
Well, they have backed down Cashy, and understand your feelings, however, if everyone ostracised this shop, then where does it leave the shop assistants who showed defiance in the first place ? Out of a job ?

the lady was not being defiant kate, in fact she was very disressed,saying she felt it was wrong, but also said she could not afford to be unemployed, this firm is ruling by intimidation in my opinion, i take yer point, but nevertheless we will never support such a firm again.

katex 04-11-2009 19:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 760536)
the lady was not being defiant kate, in fact she was very disressed,saying she felt it was wrong, but also said she could not afford to be unemployed, this firm is ruling by intimidation in my opinion, i take yer point, but nevertheless we will never support such a firm again.

Ok . perhaps defiant was not the correct word.
Their products are cheap though ... :D

Sara 04-11-2009 19:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace (Post 760531)
I totally agree with you, its disgraceful

Sara I found an address for their parent company:
GR & MM Blackledge Plc, 9 Western Avenue Matrix Park Leyland Lancs PR7 7NB

Thanks

Tealeaf 04-11-2009 19:20

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This is absolutely outrageous.....who the hell is this oufit anyway? Do they have any retail outlets here in London? Tell me where....

Eric , if you're reading this, then you will know that the Poppy appeal originated from the Canadian John McCrae's poem:

In Flanders fields, the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below...
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields...
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands, we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields...

McCrae is buried in Wimereaux cemetary, outside Boulougne, a few graves down from a great uncle of mine (1st Irish Guards)...this is making me very, very, mad.

Pheonix 04-11-2009 19:24

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Although they have backed down I cannot understand why they would ban it in the first place.

For me the poppy is a sign of gratitude for all those immaterial of colour or creed that laid down their lives for others like me and you, in order that we may live a free and long existence without tyranny and fear from oppression.

What I dislike about this is that the person who made this decision is probably a decendant of someone that was saved by one of those that gave their life in the great war.

Wear your poppy with pride and support the British Legion

Eric 04-11-2009 19:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 760544)
This is absolutely outrageous.....who the hell is this oufit anyway? Do they have any retail outlets here in London? Tell me where....

Eric , if you're reading this, then you will know that the origin of the Poppy appeal originated from the Canadian John McCrae's poem:

In Flanders fields, the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below...
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields...
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands, we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields...

McCrae is buried in Wimereau cemetary, outside Boulougne, a few graves down from a great uncle of mine (1st Irish Guards)...this is making me very, very, mad.

All Canadians are familiar with the poem ... it is printed on the back of the Canadian $10.00 bill ...

I'm really po'd at this too ... One of my earliest memories is of my granddad Ashton coughing himself to death in '48, finally losing his last battle against the whiff of gas he got in '17.:mad:

Tealeaf 04-11-2009 19:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 760548)
All Canadians are familiar with the poem ... it is printed on the back of the Canadian $10.00 bill ...

.:mad:

I didn't know that...still, I suppose that now we're fully signed up with the Lisbon Treaty, we'll probably end up with quotes from Rousseau or Hitler stuck on the back of our Fiver. Did you know that Britannia is being ditched from the back of our coinage from next year? It's pathetic.....we're going down the swanee, and fast.

Eric 04-11-2009 20:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 760559)
I didn't know that...still, I suppose that now we're fully signed up with the Lisbon Treaty, we'll probably end up with quotes from Rousseau or Hitler stuck on the back of our Fiver. Did you know that Britannia is being ditched from the back of our coinage from next year? It's pathetic.....we're going down the swanee, and fast.

No more Britannia! What are they going to replace it with? How about a gallic rooster, maybe a pic of Angela Merkel stomping a poppy on the front:eek: Might as well sign up with the Euro.

I know it's a little off topic, (but considering the poppy is a symbol for those who gave everything for British freedom and independence not too much) but what is the problem with putting it to a vote, a referendum, ... "it" being the whole EU thing. I sense there is enough support for this, so, which party will grow a pair and make it an election issue?

Eric 04-11-2009 21:00

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
Maybe I could send you a sawbuck so that you can see it yourself. There are also depicted poppies, the National War Memorial, and a Canadian veteran wearing the jacket and berret of the Royal Canadian Legion.

cashman 04-11-2009 21:05

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
The only way we will ever return to this shop, is if whomever is responsible fer this ridiculous decision, is made to pay the price fer this insult to our fallen troops.:mad:

Eric 04-11-2009 21:13

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
I see that Bodycare has outlets in Canada ... I most certainly will avoid them like the plague ... Oh, and the incident made the news on tv over here ... the buffoon who started this idiocy is going to make news world wide ... The intensity of the outrage is a good sign, and an indication that even though there are some insensitive idiots around, most still remember with pride and sorrow those who fell.

grannyclaret 04-11-2009 21:22

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
Canadian John McCrae's poem:

In Flanders fields, the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below...
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields...
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands, we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields...
.................................................. ...............
that is a beautiful poem,,,Bodycare should be ashamed of themselves,,,,
i hope they think about it on remembrance Sunday,when all the old comrades pass the cenataph..

shillelagh 04-11-2009 21:23

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
im already on my third poppy .. and its not even weekend yet ..

i heard that on the radio at teatime ..and couldnt believe it. A poppy is a tribute to all those who have fallen in times gone by and for those yet to fall. Have never since i was i kid missed wearing one .. spend the saturday before remembrance sunday watching the service at the royal albert hall .. have done since i was a kid .. a sign of respect

Tealeaf 04-11-2009 21:51

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
I got the metal pin poppy....hope it's not made in China.

cashman 04-11-2009 22:33

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
to my mind this is a much bigger gaffe than "Gerald Ratner" made back in the day, far more insulting, n his virtually finished his business.:rolleyes:

shillelagh 04-11-2009 22:34

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
only virtually cashy ..:D:D:D

cashman 04-11-2009 22:48

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 760625)
only virtually cashy ..:D:D:D

yeh well i'm in a very kind mood.:D;)

Mancie 05-11-2009 01:27

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
the way I see it is that the management of this company have acted out of order.. but to boycott the firm may put working staff out of a job and they are not the ones who should suffer for big time bosses.. at the end the boss will move on with a big wedge but workers will get nowt.

katex 05-11-2009 06:35

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 760614)
I got the metal pin poppy....hope it's not made in China.

Could always knit yer own Tealeaf ... :)

knitonthenet :: Knit a Poppy

jaysay 05-11-2009 09:02

Re: Why i won't be shopping at Bodycare again. *Merged*
 
I can never understand any company being so bloody stupid, its no use having after thoughts and saying its a special case, that doesn't wash with me at all, surely these clowns realised that there would be flack flying as people don't keep quiet when it involves stupidity like this. It was only last week that Derbyshire County Council banned the sale poppies in the counties Libraries, but quickly backed down, when the flack started flying


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