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garinda 13-03-2010 16:28

Conservative candidate named.
 
Karen Buckley was selected on the first ballot this afternoon from a field of six to stand as Conservative candidate for Hyndburn in Lancashire at the general election.A Lancastrian born and bred, she is a solicitor specialising in Family Law who is currently studying for a Masters Degree in Advanced Legal Practice in Matrimonial Law. She joined the Conservative Party after hearing David Cameron promote the importance of marriage and has been a councillor in Fylde since 2007.
Read more about her on her website.
Sitting Labour MP Greg Pope is retiring and bequeathing a notional majority of 5,528 to his successor as Labour candidate. Karen requires a swing of 6.9% to win the seat.
ConservativeHome's Seats & Candidates blog

Perhaps we should offer a more sympathetic attitude, because today's the day when the local Conservatives found out who their imposed candidate is.

Well done Karen.

webglynne 13-03-2010 16:32

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Is this any more “imposed” than an all female list insisted on from the top?

And was not Greg mention in the expenses scandal?


I personally don’t like any party saying who will or will not be on a list of candidates.

garinda 13-03-2010 16:42

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Originally Posted by webglynne (Post 796767)
Is this any more “imposed” than an all female list insisted on from the top?

She was quotation marks, 'imposed', because the local Conservative party weren't allowed to field their own favoured candidates. Hence because there was a disagreement with Conservative Central Office, an 'imposed' candidate list was bestowed on them.

I'm sure if you're in the dark about it there are one or two threads, making mention of the facts of the matter.

Just use the handy search facility, and type in 'Conservative candidate imposed list', and you'll be illuminated by the ins and outs of the story.

;)

garinda 13-03-2010 16:56

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You have to feel a little sorry for poor Janet Storey.

The only local candidate on the imposed list, and rejected by the locals in favour of an outsider.

Perhaps the others were really exceptional, rather than her not being seen as not up to scratch.

Less 13-03-2010 17:01

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In answer to all posts in this thread so far, WHO?

And just a touch of, how long have they got to ingratiate themselves with myself and other floating voters?

garinda 13-03-2010 17:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 796844)
In answer to all posts in this thread so far, WHO?

And just a touch of, how long have they got to ingratiate themselves with myself and other floating voters?

Apparently she is a member of Accy Web. She was online the day the thread re: the candidate list was started, and read the thread. Though I can't see her on the members list now.

garinda 13-03-2010 17:07

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If selected as your Conservative Prospective Parliamentary Candidate
I WILL resign immediately from my job as a lawyer, find local accommodation and work for the constituents of Hyndburn
Karen Buckley


Perhaps this news might kick start the local housing market.

garinda 13-03-2010 17:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 796844)
how long have they got to ingratiate themselves with myself and other floating voters?

According to most political pundits, until May 6th.

You don't go by the name of Jack Stone on the ConservativeHome website, do you Less?

'Why the hell do local parties leave it so late to select candidates? Surely it would give a greater chance of success if a candidate was selected say a year to eighteen months from an election so they have a chance to build up a prominent local profile.'
ConservativeHome's Seats & Candidates blog: Karen Buckley selected for Hyndburn

Less 13-03-2010 17:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796855)

You don't go by the name of Jack Stone on the ConservativeHome website, do you Less?

'Why the hell do local parties leave it so late to select candidates? Surely it would give a greater chance of success if a candidate was selected say a year to eighteen months from an election so they have a chance to build up a prominent local profile.'
ConservativeHome's Seats & Candidates blog: Karen Buckley selected for Hyndburn

No, it's just that so far today we've had Jaysay simmering, (he's the only Tory in the village by the way), now I can see the chance to make him boil.
:D

shillelagh 13-03-2010 17:22

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hes not the only tory in the village .. you forgetting andrew b .. when he actually signs in ..

katex 13-03-2010 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796847)
Apparently she is a member of Accy Web. She was online the day the thread re: the candidate list was started, and read the thread. Though I can't see her on the members list now.

She won't show up until she has made a post Garinda. Let's hope she does now then we can get the make of her.

Best of luck Karen.

garinda 13-03-2010 17:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 796861)
No, it's just that so far today we've had Jaysay simmering, (he's the only Tory in the village by the way), now I can see the chance to make him boil.
:D


Today's obviously been very trying for the poor soul.

Today should have been a great triumph.

It's not always easy being King Maker, when all around you the peasants are crying out for a Republic.

Just think how bitter Lord Mountbatten was, when old Charlie didn't pick one of his grandaughters to be his bride, and the future Queen of England.

It must be sad to realise that not only didn't the horse you backed, get to leave the stable, but you find out from the vet that the nag you so loved will probably never race again.

I feel quite sad about it all myself.

Less 13-03-2010 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 796863)
hes not the only tory in the village .. you forgetting andrew b .. when he actually signs in ..

I've said it once today and just for you I'll repeat myself, Andrew WHO?

garinda 13-03-2010 17:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 796865)
She won't show up until she has made a post Garinda. Let's hope she does now then we can get the make of her.

Best of luck Karen.


You're so useful.
Thank you.
I'll cancel getting my eyes tested now.
:D

garinda 13-03-2010 17:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 796869)
I've said it once today and just for you I'll repeat myself, Andrew WHO?

I have a vague memory of someone accusing myself of 'picking' on him.

I pointed out that I'd done nothing he hadn't done to other members, I'd broken no forum rules, and told him I'd carry on regardless.

That's if we're on the same person.

I think the one I'm thinking of had a name begining with a lower case 'a' though.

:rolleyes:

garinda 13-03-2010 17:58

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It might be handy, her being a lawyer,

She could advise some people on what's libelous, if they get carried away, without resorting to threatening legal action.

A win/win situation.

Less 13-03-2010 18:03

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796873)
I have a vague memory of someone accusing myself of 'picking' on him.

I pointed out that I'd done nothing he hadn't done to other members, I'd broken no forum rules, and told him I'd carry on regardless.

That's if we're on the same person.

I think the one I'm thinking of had a name begining with a lower case 'a' though.

:rolleyes:

Such a common name confusion obviously reigns in his presence but then, Mr. Harold of Wilson once said a week is a long time in Politics no wonder A/a is such a vague memory.
:D

garinda 13-03-2010 18:11

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Karen was born in 1968 in St Annes. She attended Queen Mary Girls School, Lytham.
Karen Buckley

What a smalll world!

I have a very good girlfriend who would have been in the same year at her fee paying school.

I'll try and find out if she was a goody-goody, or one of the ones who flashed their knickers at the boys at equally snooty Kind Edward's.

:eek::D:eek:







garinda 13-03-2010 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796897)
Karen was born in 1968 in St Annes. She attended Queen Mary Girls School, Lytham.
Karen Buckley

What a smalll world!

I have a very good girlfriend who would have been in the same year at her fee paying school.

I'll try and find out if she was a goody-goody, or one of the ones who flashed their knickers at the boys at equally snooty Kind Edward's.

:eek::D:eek:

Perhaps this was poor Janet Storey's downfall.

She didn't know a lacrosse stick, from a jolly hockey one, and the interviewers were looking for someone who'll know how to drop a nice curtsy, when required.

Academically I wouldn't rate Queen Mary's as one of the better girl's schools in the northwest, but they do turn out very nicely brought up young ladies for the wealthy residents of Lythan St. Annes.

If they laid on some nice cucumber sandwiches for today's interviews, you can bet she nibbled daintly.

Perhaps some more down to earth candidates guzzled them off the floor, and therefore blew their chances.

Less 13-03-2010 19:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796907)

If they laid on some nice cucumber sandwiches for today's interviews, you can bet she nibbled daintly.


If she and the rest from such schools were laid end to end they would think they where at the Annual Conservative Party Conference. Hooray, Henry has found a use for them.

YouTube - Gocompare.com, Gio Compario - Finishing School

Pointless advert, Daddy would have got one of his minions to sort the insurance out days ago.
:D

garinda 13-03-2010 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 796911)
If she and the rest from such schools were laid end to end they would think they where at the Annual Conservative Party Conference. Hooray, Henry has found a use for them.

YouTube - Gocompare.com, Gio Compario - Finishing School

Pointless advert, Daddy would have got one of his minions to sort the insurance out days ago.
:D

Book reading Philistine.

Try balancing one on your head, and then try getting out of a sports car....without showing your knickers.

That's truly a learned skill.

shillelagh 13-03-2010 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796916)
Book reading Philistine.

Try balancing one on your head, and then try getting out of a sports car....without showing your knickers.

That's truly a learned skill.

thats easy ... you got 2 ways of doing that ...first wear trousers :rolleyes:.. second dont wear any :rolleyes: :D:D:D

the second means you dont get panty lines showing through ... so a win win situation ....:D:D:D

garinda 13-03-2010 19:22

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Ms. Buckley might also spilt the happy-clappy vote, with Logan.

Karen is an accomplished pianist and a member of St Annes Baptist Church music team. She is also a member of the charity Lawyers’ Christian Fellowship.
Karen Buckley - Conservative PPC for Hyndburn

DaveinGermany 13-03-2010 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 796918)
thats easy ... you got 2 ways of doing that ...first wear trousers :rolleyes:.. second dont wear any :rolleyes: :D:D:D

What's that Shill "Brittany Spears-Katie Price" elagh :eek: mind you don't catch cold or get your lips chapped as you're off down town !!! :D :D wanton so you are, wanton !! :D :D is that fella of yours aware or your proclivity ?

Less 13-03-2010 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 796920)
is that fella of yours aware or your proclivity ?

If he owned a sports car and ran around to open the passenger door for her, he would get a full on view of it.
:eek:

garinda 13-03-2010 19:34

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'We believe Jesus Christ died for our sins and was raised from the dead on the 3rd day to sit at the right hand of God. Therefore Jesus is ALIVE and we can do nothing without first accepting Jesus into our lives and asking forgiveness of our sins. The justification of the sinner is solely by the grace of God through faith in Christ.'
Beliefs - St Annes Baptist Church



Wouldn't it be funny, if she found Him, whilst on the knock here in Hyndburn?

Perhaps He's already known to us, and walks amongst us already. Albeit someone who can walk on water, and can turn expenses into wine.

Perhaps she should start her canvassing in Ossy. Starting at the top.

(I haven't got to dealing with sinners yet, so really should continue reading.)

DaveinGermany 13-03-2010 19:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 796922)
If he owned a sports car and ran around to open the passenger door for her, he would get a full on view of it.
:eek:


Good point, still grinning !! :D :D :D

claytonender 13-03-2010 19:44

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This post on Conservative Home rather amused me (have highlighted the words that amused me)-

'Congratulations Karen. It is good to see the nomination stayed here in the north west.

Wish you had longer in your campaign to beat Labour there, after all they are a pretty ropey bunch the Hyndburn Labour Party by all accounts.

Best wishes and all speed to your victory in May.'

Now I have been called many things in my time - but wonder why the Hyndburn Labour Party are pretty ropey. Hope someone can expand on it, so we know how we can improve.

shillelagh 13-03-2010 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 796920)
mind you don't catch cold or get your lips chapped as you're off down town !!! :D :D

have you never heard of vaseline .. works wonders for chapped lips :D:D

wanton so you are, wanton !! :D :D is that fella of yours aware or your proclivity ?

moi? never .. im accywebs little angel ... :D:D:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 796922)
If he owned a sports car and ran around to open the passenger door for her, he would get a full on view of it.
:eek:

as you know less we prefer being chauffered around by a alexander dennis centuro ....

:D:D:D

garinda 13-03-2010 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 796927)
This post on Conservative Home rather amused me


That had me howling too.

Though I fear it's only those of us with unlimited access to the restricted areas, who can see it.

:D

katex 13-03-2010 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796897)
I'll try and find out if she was a goody-goody, or one of the ones who flashed their knickers at the boys at equally snooty Kind Edward's.

:eek::D:eek:







Trying to dish up some dirt already Garinda ? :D

Wonder what her maiden name was and her mothers ... would not be difficult to trace the Accrington family she mentions.

Less 13-03-2010 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 796927)

Wish you had longer in your campaign to beat Labour there, after all they are a pretty ropey bunch the Hyndburn Labour Party by all accounts.

They are mixing metaphors and it's easy to understand why. this area of Lancashire was the place for cotton weaving,

Therefore cotton = twine
Twine=very, very fine rope
Ropey must therefore equal a person or people that have a passion about natural fibres and other associated woven products, no doubt the Conservative Candidate for Portsmouth, (the largest rope making town at one time), has had their Conservatives calling Labour a right set of weavers or always in a spin.

Nothing at all to worry about, such ignorance often comes to light from those that never got their hands dirty from any honest toil during their lifetime.
:)

lancsdave 13-03-2010 20:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796851)
If selected as your Conservative Prospective Parliamentary Candidate
I WILL resign immediately from my job as a lawyer, find local accommodation and work for the constituents of Hyndburn
Karen Buckley




Perhaps this news might kick start the local housing market.

She is going to move from the Fylde to Hyndburn. Just confirms my beleif how far down the drain Blackpool has gone :D

garinda 13-03-2010 20:24

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 796931)
Trying to dish up some dirt already Garinda ?

Not at all.

Just putting into practice that old Jesuit motto.

'Show me the public school girl at eleven, and I'll show you the politican.'

I actually know two girls from her year, one one from two years below, so I should get a fair picture, when I quiz them.

Not being local might not necessarily go against her.

After all Kitty Ussher was bussed in from outside the area, and taken into the Dingle's bosom.

garinda 13-03-2010 20:26

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 796941)
She is going to move from the Fylde to Hyndburn. Just confirms my beleif how far down the drain Blackpool has gone :D

Doesn't the Blackpool drain go straight into the sea?

I though the seafood, open mouthed and treading water at the outlet pipe, was why they were so big and juicy.

:eek::D:eek:

lindsay ormerod 13-03-2010 20:34

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Just 2 thoughts so far -,
1 ) Our prospective MP doesn't know how or when to use full stops.
2) That photo of Oak Hill Park looks very ,very recent.:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 13-03-2010 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796942)
Not at all.

Just putting into practice that old Jesuit motto.

'Show me the public school girl at eleven, and I'll show you the politican.'

Harriet Harman, for instance? ;)

Less 13-03-2010 20:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796943)
Doesn't the Blackpool drain go straight into the sea?


:eek::D:eek:

They took a leaf out of Sellafields book, (formerly known as Windscale) & pump it straight onto the Irish Beaches now.

:eek:

garinda 13-03-2010 21:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 796949)
Harriet Harman, for instance? ;)

Harriet Harman's not standing in Hyndburn, even if she too probably does a lovely curtsey.

As stated, Queen Mary gels might not be the brightest buttons in the box, in my opinion and experience, but they are frightfully, frightfully, well mannered.

;)

garinda 13-03-2010 21:40

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You never know.

It might be nice having one of our social betters as our M.P.

Like a return to the old days.

We could stand on the station, waving our cloth caps, as the train streamed away t'big city. Taking her Ladyship to Westminster, to plead our case in t'big House for us.

Less 13-03-2010 21:49

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796971)
You never know.

It might be nice having one of our social betters as our M.P.

Like a return to the old days.

We could stand on the station, waving our cloth caps, as the train streamed away t'big city. Taking her Ladyship to Westminster, to plead our case in t'big House for us.

Good God Sir, you make the blood vessels in my temples expand and retract under their own volition!


The good old days, Pah, you know nothing about the good old days, back then the Male of the family only would be waved off and his good lady Wife She would have to dash home tear stained hanky in hand to ensure the upstairs Parlour maid and the kitchen skivvy hadn't been able to break the bonds tying them to their duties.

Then she would just about have enough time for three fainting fits before settling down for tea.
:mad:

Yours faithfully,

Col. Buffington (rtd).

lindsay ormerod 13-03-2010 22:11

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All that education and not a full stop to be seen on the pledges bit of her website.

garinda 13-03-2010 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 796977)
Good God Sir, you make the blood vessels in my temples expand and retract under their own volition!


The good old days, Pah, you know nothing about the good old days, back then the Male of the family only would be waved off and his good lady Wife She would have to dash home tear stained hanky in hand to ensure the upstairs Parlour maid and the kitchen skivvy hadn't been able to break the bonds tying them to their duties.

Then she would just about have enough time for three fainting fits before settling down for tea.
:mad:

Yours faithfully,

Col. Buffington (rtd).

Dear Col. Buffington,
in days of yore, if the master of the house was in receipt of enough independent wealth, this on occasion would allow a blue-stocking spouse, such as Lady Bountiful, to carry out certain good works, for example charitable assistance, helping the poor and downtrodden of an area, as on the dark satanic streets of Hyndburn.
Your's etc.,
P. Rim (Miss)

garinda 13-03-2010 22:17

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 796992)
All that education and not a full stop to be seen on the pledges bit of her website.

Don't be to harsh Lindsay.

You can have full stops, or you can have swans made out of napkins.

It's not possible to have both.

Less 13-03-2010 22:34

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796996)
Dear Col. Buffington,
in days of yore, if the master of the house was in receipt of enough independent wealth, this on occasion would allow a blue-stocking spouse, such as Lady Bountiful, to carry out certain good works, for example charitable assistance, helping the poor and downtrodden of an area, as on the dark satanic streets of Hyndburn.
Your's etc.,
P. Rim (Miss)

Miss Rim as we have not been formally introduced I will refrain from using your P,

Why, oh why, would the good lady of any respectable household work towards undoing all that her husband has aimed for during his career, does she not realise that he is no doubt the reason there are downtrodden in any area?

Without the downtrodden how could he keep his Mills running on starvation wages without somebody for his workers to look down on and be grateful that 'there but for the grace of God go I'.

She should be ashamed, there is a place for everyone and everyone should adhere to his/her place. I wish people would refrain from educating women who knows where this could take us?

Bring back the ducking stool & the Scold's Bridle, ahhh, now those were the days,

Yours faithfully,

Col. Buffington (rtd).

garinda 13-03-2010 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 797007)
Miss Rim as we have not been formally introduced I will refrain from using your P,

Why, oh why, would the good lady of any respectable household work towards undoing all that her husband has aimed for during his career, does she not realise that he is no doubt the reason there are downtrodden in any area?

Without the downtrodden how could he keep his Mills running on starvation wages without somebody for his workers to look down on and be grateful that 'there but for the grace of God go I'.

She should be ashamed, there is a place for everyone and everyone should adhere to his/her place. I wish people would refrain from educating women who knows where this could take us?

Bring back the ducking stool & the Scold's Bridle, ahhh, now those were the days,

Yours faithfully,

Col. Buffington (rtd).


Dear Col. Buffington,
please call me Phyllida, as I feel we are now firm friends.
I agree it wouldn't be wise for every man to allow his spouse freedom from her wifely duties to her better half, and also from house and home, but those weak men who support female sufferage, and the education of the female of the species, might benefit if they accept that she has urges that need addressing, and allows her her folly into public life. The husband might indeed benefit considerably by her absence from his household, for short periods of time.
This is only an option for the very few in society, who besides a revolutionary bent, need considerable fortune to precipitate this happening.
I hope and trust your own good lady, if there is such a lucky person, isn't given such outrageous free reign.
Your affectionate friend.,
Phyllida Rim, (MISS)

Less 13-03-2010 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797013)
I hope and trust your own good lady, if there is such a lucky person, isn't given such outrageous free reign.
Your affectionate friend.,
Phyllida Rim, (MISS)

My Dear Miss Phyllida,

it is with heavy heart that I have to tell you, I am a widower.

I blame myself, if only instead of insisting that she must do all that is necessary around the home and I'd got a man in she would not have dug the footings for our new patio and Conservatory to such a depth, alas, the man with the premixed concrete arrived early and she didn't get out of the hole in time.
Still on the plus side I was able to convince the man from the co-op that the funeral insurance policy was null and void as it wasn't them that buried her.
He finally agreed and went off murmuring something about the policy unlike my wife is not cast in stone.

Well enough of my ramblings and may the prospective Conservative candidate also fill a gap that shows her worth,

Yours faithfully,

Col Buffington (rtd)

P.S. on a happy note I ended up with enough concrete left over to build a barbecue, any time your passing and fancy a nibble, please feel free to drop in.

P.P.S. Have you any D.I.Y. skills? As my sceptic tank could do with a really good clean out!
:D

garinda 13-03-2010 23:49

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Dearest Buffy,
I have just this moment returned from the booking office at the station, and as well as arranging for my portmanteau to be collected and delivered forthwith, I myself shall be with you, down at Hardstanding Villas, by twelve noon tomorrow. I eagerly await the chance to share plesant moments with you in the conservatory, so kindly funded by your late wife's demise.
Adieu, et à demain.
Your dearest Phylli. A woman who most humbly knows her true place. x

accyman 14-03-2010 02:14

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just out of sheer curiosity has there ever been a poor tory candidate or even a tory candadate that hasnt pretended to be poorer than what they actualy are to try and win us poorer folks vote ( cough cameron)

garinda 14-03-2010 08:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 797034)
just out of sheer curiosity has there ever been a poor tory candidate or even a tory candadate that hasnt pretended to be poorer than what they actualy are to try and win us poorer folks vote ( cough cameron)

Ken Hargreaves wasn't.

garinda 14-03-2010 08:40

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Although fairly new to politics, it appears Karen Buckley has fought a campaign before.

Though sadly this resulted in the Conservatives losing the safe Tory seat of St. Annes North, and a seat at L.C.C.

Though I'm sure the experience will help her, in the relatively short time she'll have to canvass here in Hyndburn.

'Many thanks to all who helped to achieve this historic victory, which I believe is the first Liberal Democrat win in St.Annes North since 1927 when Alderman Charles Critchley held the seat as Leader of the old “Liberal Party” and first Mayor of Lytham St.Annes. This week’s victory is the culmination of 12 years effort over three previous attempts during which the Conservative majority has been progressively reduced from 1663 in 1993 to 488 in 2005. A massive swing of 12% this time produced a solid Liberal Democrat majority of almost 550.Special thanks are due to the Chairman of the local party, John Graddon, Campaign Manager Tony Ford and Agent Anne Fielding. The result of the Lancashire County Council election for St.Annes North was:

Howard Henshaw Liberal Democrats 2049
Karen Buckley Conservatives 1502
Bill Whitehead UKIP 614
Peter Stephenson Labour 296
Majority 547
Turnout 42.36% '
Howard Henshaw | Liberal Democrat Group Leader and Councillor for St Leonards Ward and Lancashire County Councillor for St Annes North

garinda 14-03-2010 09:09

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'The days of someone from London pitching up six weeks before an election are long gone' “Now we have local candidates, who have been preparing to be MPs for years.”

'Tories are winning over East Lancashire', Hague claims (From Lancashire Telegraph)

I suppose little William Hague was half right, as it was the imposed list that pitched up from London, and the candidate was bussed into Hyndburn from wealthy Lytham St. Annes, a reported six weeks before the election.

:rolleyes:

garinda 14-03-2010 09:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797051)
Ken Hargreaves wasn't.


To his credit he was more 'Open All Hours', than 'To The Manor Born.'

garinda 14-03-2010 10:13

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KAREN BUCKLEY
Ready to serve and represent the people of Accrington, Clayton Le Moors, Great Harwood, Haslingden, Oswaldtwistle and Rishton.
Karen Buckley - Conservative PPC for Hyndburn




Should the people of Church, Baxenden, and Altham be worried that they're not going to have a voice down in Westminster?

:rolleyes:



jaysay 14-03-2010 10:25

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796907)
Perhaps this was poor Janet Storey's downfall.

She didn't know a lacrosse stick, from a jolly hockey one, and the interviewers were looking for someone who'll know how to drop a nice curtsy, when required.

Academically I wouldn't rate Queen Mary's as one of the better girl's schools in the northwest, but they do turn out very nicely brought up young ladies for the wealthy residents of Lytham St. Annes.

If they laid on some nice cucumber sandwiches for today's interviews, you can bet she nibbled daintly.

Perhaps some more down to earth candidates guzzled them off the floor, and therefore blew their chances.

This is the only post I will make on this thread, as I couldn't care less who is the candidate for reasons previously stated. If I had had a vote I would not have opted for Janet either for one reason, she never canvases, in fact she takes her annual holidays every year the last two weeks in April during the election campaign. Years ago when I moved back to Hyndburn after living in Haslingden for a few years, I was targeted to stand for election in Immanuel Ward in the 1988 local election, which I refused, due to my health problems, because I was unable to canvas and deliver leaflets. I was told that it would be done for me, I could just sit back and let others do the work. At the time I said if some one came knocking at my door and asked if I would vote for John Farrer my question would have been, why is John Farrer not asking me himself. I have no doubt that I could have done the job as a councillor dealing with problems going to meetings etc., but if you can't earn the right to undertake the job under your own steam, sorry your not electable in my eyes, its all about those principles of mine, this is another one

garinda 14-03-2010 10:28

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 797079)
This is the only post I will make on this thread, as I couldn't care less who is the candidate for reasons previously stated. If I had had a vote I would not have opted for Janet either for one reason, she never canvases, in fact she takes her annual holidays every year the last two weeks in April during the election campaign. Years ago when I moved back to Hyndburn after living in Haslingden for a few years, I was targeted to stand for election in Immanuel Ward in the 1988 local election, which I refused, due to my health problems, because I was unable to canvas and deliver leaflets. I was told that it would be done for me, I could just sit back and let others do the work. At the time I said if some one came knocking at my door and asked if I would vote for John Farrer my question would have been, why is John Farrer not asking me himself. I have no doubt that I could have done the job as a councillor dealing with problems going to meetings etc., but if you can't earn the right to undertake the job under your own steam, sorry your not electable in my eyes, its all about those principles of mine, this is another one

It's good to hear that poor Janet wasn't successful just because she wasn't as posh as Karen, but other issues also came into play.

Boeing Guy 14-03-2010 10:29

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Well she looks a bit like another Hazel Blears, I just hope she does not start waving a cheque about!!!!

It seems that Conservative Central Office have kind of lost the plot, a woman....she is a solicitor, as such detached from normal life (look at the justice system)......and not even living in the borough. This sort of party arrogance really gets me, I am sure she is very nice, but what does she really know about Hyndburn?

Looks like Graham might win it then, he is local, he takes a local interest.
I wish him the very best of luck.

Looks like I will be voting monster raving loony then, as the Tories cannot be bothered to find a local candidate who understands local issues.

andrewb 14-03-2010 11:22

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I think the candidate should be chosen on merit, rather than the sole attribute that they're from the constituency. Yes it plays a part, but it's not the only part. There have been many good constituency MPs that have come from much further a distance from the area they represent than Karen Buckley has, and have far fewer links.

If a candidate is good and moves into the constituency, they'll be involved and interested in local issues whether they're originally from the area or not.

garinda 14-03-2010 11:35

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 797084)
It seems that Conservative Central Office have kind of lost the plot, a woman....she is a solicitor, as such detached from normal life (look at the justice system)......and not even living in the borough. This sort of party arrogance really gets me, I am sure she is very nice, but what does she really know about Hyndburn?

Looks like Graham might win it then, he is local, he takes a local interest.
I wish him the very best of luck.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the locals in Hyndburn prefer a local candidate, who they've had a chance to see working locally for a long time, or someone shipped in from outside, who'll they'll only have a few weeks getting to know.

accyman 14-03-2010 11:40

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i suppose its a big help that graham knows what areas hes expected to cover lol

garinda 14-03-2010 11:44

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 797108)
i suppose its a big help that graham knows what areas hes expected to cover lol

Like Church, Baxenden, and Altham?

Which Karen didn't know she'll also be expected to represent, according to her website.

Perhaps knowing the local area will be an important attribute after all.

garinda 14-03-2010 11:47

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Are there any Accy Web meets planned before May?

As both Graham Jones and Karen Buckley are both members on this forum, we could invite them both along, and take turns probing them.

garinda 14-03-2010 11:49

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797112)
Are there any Accy Web meets planned before May?

As both Graham Jones and Karen Buckley are both members on this forum, we could invite them both along, and take turns probing them.


....and we could supply Karen with detailed instructions and a map, to make sure she knew where the venue was in the area.

Just in case.

Less 14-03-2010 13:40

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797113)
....and we could supply Karen with detailed instructions and a map, to make sure she knew where the venue was in the area.

Just in case.

Is she not being supplied with a car? Or do the local Tories think they'll have nothing to chau ffer it?

Bum tish I thangyou!
:cool:

Oh beggar, someone's nicked my coat I'll have to work home in the rain.

accyman 14-03-2010 14:01

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surely they can provide a tandem and have cameron bring her as hes so keen on cycling to save the planet ( whilst having a car chaufer his satchel behind him)

garinda 14-03-2010 14:42

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You really shouldn't prejudge her, saying she'll have a chauffeur driven car, laid on by the local Conservative Association.

It might be a sedan chair, manned by two willing supporters.

jaysay 14-03-2010 16:04

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797155)
You really shouldn't prejudge her, saying she'll have a chauffeur driven car, laid on by the local Conservative Association.

It might be a sedan chair, manned by two willing supporters.

two;)

MargaretR 14-03-2010 17:14

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one will do

jaysay 14-03-2010 17:16

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 797186)
one will do

exactly

garinda 15-03-2010 01:11

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 796851)
If selected as your Conservative Prospective Parliamentary Candidate
I WILL resign immediately from my job as a lawyer, find local accommodation and work for the constituents of Hyndburn
Karen Buckley

That's now been taken off her website.

She must have popped her letter of resignation in the relevant letterbox, and is already living amongst us.

Wow, that was quick.

g jones 15-03-2010 04:07

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797328)
That's now been taken off her website.

She must have popped her letter of resignation in the relevant letterbox, and is already living amongst us.

Wow, that was quick.

I hope she does. I think Hyndburn deserves high quality candidates.

I used to think that was lawyers, barristers, business people, bankers but there credibility is low too. I hope that our MP will live and breath the air here, not like Kitty Usher.

James Mawdsley went to Rishton in a rented terrace. I understand the political gain. Try and capture big support in the northern towns. Mind you living in Oswaldtwistle didn't work last time either so I do not know where to recommend. Probably a lot of kudos if Karen lived in the heart of Woodnook?

accyman 15-03-2010 04:10

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My family roots are from this area. My mother was born in Accrington and she went to school here, as did my grandfather before that. I am a hard-working mother, lawyer and councillor wanting to change things for the better both locally and at a national level.
if shes not popular enough to stand in her own town what the hell makes her think we want her

she should stick to been a solicitor ( i prefer english terms) if she wants to settle here because at least then she will have a section of the population that would find a use for her.

even the die hard tories of our town dont want her , even as unpoular as labour are right now only a moron would vote for her thinking that she actualy gives a toss about any single person from hyndburn and if accrington is so great why did her parents leave :rolleyes:

accyman 15-03-2010 04:17

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 797335)
I hope she does. I think Hyndburn deserves high quality candidates.

I used to think that was lawyers, barristers, business people, bankers but there credibility is low too. I hope that our MP will live and breath the air here, not like Kitty Usher.

James Mawdsley went to Rishton in a rented terrace. I understand the political gain. Try and capture big support in the northern towns. Mind you living in Oswaldtwistle didn't work last time either so I do not know where to recommend. Probably a lot of kudos if Karen lived in the heart of Woodnook?

if she does live amongst us it will be in what the better off call a " second home " or " rented flat "

jesus christ graham if you cant beat this out of town no good bitch we really are a guilable set of idiots and i am far from your biggest fan but at least your local and have tried to do your best here and actually contributed to accrington and not simply been given orders to show your face here and hope labour are unpopular enough that you will get elected no matter who you are

steeljack 15-03-2010 04:45

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OK , know I'm an outsider , but can anyone tell me what the "local lads" Greg Pope and Ken Hargreaves have actually done for the area (Hyndburn) ? how many jobs, private sector or Govt. jobs have they managed it finangle to the area through their influence at Westminster ,or any private members bills they have introduced (not supported) to better the life of "man-kind" . If I was voting for someone I would be asking "whats in it for me" maybe selfish, but my family come's first ,and sod the rest of the world , not my responsibility, :confused:

accyman 15-03-2010 05:03

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i dont know much about polotics but despite been a tory i do know that ken hargeeves did a lot for his constituants and have heard from many people how he helped them with many matters and gregg pope respectivly has the same reputation for helping out his constituants,

someone shoved into our town from another area renting or having a second home may not have our interests at heart except during a run up for an election where as a person who actually lives here legitimatly and has an established record for helping out our comunity will continue to do so and look out for our interests

to put it bluntly i would much rather trust somone local who has to live with us if they cock up than trust someone who can cock up and run off back home.The local person has more incentive to look after our interests

steeljack 15-03-2010 06:35

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 797344)
i dont know much about polotics but despite been a tory i do know that ken hargeeves did a lot for his constituants and have heard from many people how he helped them with many matters and gregg pope respectivly has the same reputation for helping out his constituants,

someone shoved into our town from another area renting or having a second home may not have our interests at heart except during a run up for an election where as a person who actually lives here legitimatly and has an established record for helping out our comunity will continue to do so and look out for our interests

to put it bluntly i would much rather trust somone local who has to live with us if they cock up than trust someone who can cock up and run off back home.The local person has more incentive to look after our interests

Don't necessarily disagree with you, but think a local MPs job is more than getting passport problems sorted , a good local politician doing his job knows who to phone about pot holes in the street or who in the Chief Constables office about local yob problems, but this isn't the job of an MP........
Think one question which should be asked of prospective MPs when they come knocking on your door is ........where do you prefer local youth in the armed forces to die .... Afghanistan (fighting the War on Terror and at the same time supporting the local Opium growers) or defending British oil interests in the Falklands/Malvinas against an Argentinian invasion ....... lets face they can't be in both places .
Maybe all candidates should produce their passports as proof of foreign experience , stamps for Juan Les Pins and Benidorm being exempt ;)

garinda 15-03-2010 08:37

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 797342)
OK , know I'm an outsider , but can anyone tell me what the "local lads" Greg Pope and Ken Hargreaves have actually done for the area (Hyndburn) ? how many jobs, private sector or Govt. jobs have they managed it finangle to the area through their influence at Westminster ,or any private members bills they have introduced (not supported) to better the life of "man-kind" . If I was voting for someone I would be asking "whats in it for me" maybe selfish, but my family come's first ,and sod the rest of the world , not my responsibility, :confused:

Greg Pope rebelled against his party, and the government, over the 10p tax change. Knowing it would affect the lives of the many low paid constituents in Hyndburn.

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Government defeats 10p tax rebels

When deciding who to vote for I honestly try and decide what I think would be best for society, weighed against the attributes of each candidate. I suppose that's sort of what you're saying in a way, because it's the society I'd want to live in, so that's similar to your 'what's in it for me'.

My grandad was a big influence on me. He was a staunch Methodist, and he couldn't see how he could be anything other than a socialist, if he truly followed his religious beliefs, even though the Labour party he supported taxed him at 95%. He saw it as trying to bring about a fairer society. I hope a little of his principles have rubbed off on me, even though I'm an atheist.

garinda 15-03-2010 08:55

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797365)
Greg Pope rebelled against his party, and the government, over the 10p tax change. Knowing it would affect the lives of the many low paid constituents in Hyndburn.

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Government defeats 10p tax rebels

When deciding who to vote for I honestly try and decide what I think would be best for society, weighed against the attributes of each candidate. I suppose that's sort of what you're saying in a way, because it's the society I'd want to live in, so that's similar to your 'what's in it for me'.

My grandad was a big influence on me. He was a staunch Methodist, and he couldn't see how he could be anything other than a socialist, if he truly followed his religious beliefs, even though the Labour party he supported taxed him at 95%. He saw it as trying to bring about a fairer society. I hope a little of his principles have rubbed off on me, even though I'm an atheist.

I'd just like to clarify, before some people start jumping up and down, shouting 'here's the proof he's a flaming Commie', that my grandad was only one influernce on me, and how I view politics.

On the otherside of my family, my Nan, who I knew for a much longer period of time, was a war widow, and relatively poor, compared to my dad's parents. Her own parents were socialists, and my Nan worked hard all her life, trying her best to bring up her daughters, with no husband, and with very little help from the state.

She became a Tory after Thatcher improved the lot of war widows, after the Falkland Wars. She also became friendly with Ken, Peter, and Jaysay, and saw how hard they worked for the people of the area they represented.

I loved all three of the grandparents I knew, and knew them all to be good, hardworking people, who cared about the society they lived in, even if they saw change being brought about by differing political means.

I think this is why I can say I'm non-partisan. That, and not always blindly voting for the same party, but deciding which I think is the better option at the time of an election.

jaysay 15-03-2010 10:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797368)
I'd just like to clarify, before some people start jumping up and down, shouting 'here's the proof he's a flaming Commie', that my grandad was only one influence on me, and how I view politics.

On the otherside of my family, my Nan, who I knew for a much longer period of time, was a war widow, and relatively poor, compared to my dad's parents. Her own parents were socialists, and my Nan worked hard all her life, trying her best to bring up her daughters, with no husband, and with very little help from the state.

She became a Tory after Thatcher improved the lot of war widows, after the Falkland Wars. She also became friendly with Ken, Peter, and Jaysay, and saw how hard they worked for the people of the area they represented.

I loved all three of the grandparents I knew, and knew them all to be good, hardworking people, who cared about the society they lived in, even if they saw change being brought about by differing political means.

I think this is why I can say I'm non-partisan. That, and not always blindly voting for the same party, but deciding which I think is the better option at the time of an election.

I said I would not post on this thread again, in which I meant about the candidate because I have no interest. I did know Garinda's Nan very well in fact we were good friends and Joan and myself spent many a Saturday night sitting on the next table in Ossy Con. I can honestly say the only time I ever saw Lily without a smile on her face was at the cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday. I am also friendly with Rindi's Mother and sadly also with his late Father, two really genuine people. Unfortunately I have never had the pleasure of meeting Rindi, but have always admired the way he handles his illness more so since seeing the feature about Parkinson's on Granada reports. We may not see eye to eye on a few things, but that's where it ends, well it does as far as I'm concerned

Tealeaf 15-03-2010 22:47

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Hi everybody!

This is Mossy here!

Just to let you know that although I may well be a Tyke/Cockney opportunist, careerist Tory toad, you people in Hyndburn will always be in my hearts, so much so that I have changed my name by deedpoll to Mr Tealeaf.

I shall now be standing as an indepependant Tory candidate.

I'm sure all your votes will be assured
.

Eric 16-03-2010 04:04

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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 796927)
This post on Conservative Home rather amused me (have highlighted the words that amused me)-

'Congratulations Karen. It is good to see the nomination stayed here in the north west.

Wish you had longer in your campaign to beat Labour there, after all they are a pretty ropey bunch the Hyndburn Labour Party by all accounts.

Best wishes and all speed to your victory in May.'

Now I have been called many things in my time - but wonder why the Hyndburn Labour Party are pretty ropey. Hope someone can expand on it, so we know how we can improve.

Ok hon, I'm reading this stuff for entertainment; but what is "ropey" eh? I suspect that it is not approbative. But what exactly is it?:confused:

accyman 16-03-2010 05:13

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seems to me someones gonna get eaten for breakfast if they want to come here and start name calling if "ropey" is the best they can do.:rolleyes:

i wonder what they would pay for an insult consultant and if they would have some sort of expences scheme :)

shillelagh 16-03-2010 11:42

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why are you thinking of applying accyman?:D:D:D

garinda 16-03-2010 11:53

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797328)
That's now been taken off her website.

She must have popped her letter of resignation in the relevant letterbox, and is already living amongst us.

Wow, that was quick.

Since the pledge to immediately move to the area if selected as the Conservative candidate, has now been removed from her website, and which presumably means she's already moved here, I would urge us all to regularly check on our neighbours, especially if they're from outside the area.

Many of whom might be feeling alone, and vunerable.

Simply checking if they're okay might brighten their day, and show them we do care.

We could also offer to do a bit of shopping for them...if they don't know where the local shops are.

Wynonie Harris 16-03-2010 12:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797584)
Since the pledge to immediately move to the area if selected as the Conservative candidate, has now been removed from her website, and which presumably means she's already moved here

Great!...looking forward to pre-match drinks and a bit of banter with her in the Oaklea already! :)

garinda 16-03-2010 12:24

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 797079)
This is the only post I will make on this thread, as I couldn't care less who is the candidate for reasons previously stated. If I had had a vote I would not have opted for Janet either for one reason, she never canvases, in fact she takes her annual holidays every year the last two weeks in April during the election campaign. Years ago when I moved back to Hyndburn after living in Haslingden for a few years, I was targeted to stand for election in Immanuel Ward in the 1988 local election, which I refused, due to my health problems, because I was unable to canvas and deliver leaflets. I was told that it would be done for me, I could just sit back and let others do the work. At the time I said if some one came knocking at my door and asked if I would vote for John Farrer my question would have been, why is John Farrer not asking me himself. I have no doubt that I could have done the job as a councillor dealing with problems going to meetings etc., but if you can't earn the right to undertake the job under your own steam, sorry your not electable in my eyes, its all about those principles of mine, this is another one

Although as you've informed us, the majority of the local Conservative Association have turned their backs on her, and aren't offering any help or funding, surely there must be one or two young Cameronites in Hyndburn, who'll go on the knock with her, and help with any lickin'?

Oh perhaps there isn't two, as you hinted when we discussed the sedan chair?

One?

Come on, we must be able to muster at least one willing sap.

Wynonie Harris 16-03-2010 13:11

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797590)
Although as you've informed us, the majority of the local Conservative Association have turned their backs on her, and aren't offering any help or funding, surely there must be one or two young Cameronites in Hyndburn, who'll go on the knock with her, and help with any lickin'?

Oh perhaps there isn't two, as you hinted when we discussed the sedan chair?

One?

Come on, we must be able to muster at least one willing sap.

He's in Hull, isn't he...or will term have finished by then?

garinda 16-03-2010 13:17

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 797618)
He's in Hull, isn't he...or will term have finished by then?


Who?

I was just hoping there must be at least one local Tory activist, not angered by the imposed candidate, willing to give her a hand.

:rolleyes:

garinda 16-03-2010 13:36

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 797146)
Is she not being supplied with a car? Or do the local Tories think they'll have nothing to chau ffer it?

Bum tish I thangyou!
:cool:

Oh beggar, someone's nicked my coat I'll have to work home in the rain.

Forget the sedan chair, it looks like it might be the limo after all. Hyndburn being one of the target, 'winnable', seats.


'The full extent of controversial Tory Lord Ashcroft's plan to buy the election has been revealed in figures showing a £6million cash injection for target seats.
Belize-based Michael Ashcroft, who refuses to say if he pays tax in Britain, is helping the Tories plough millions into campaigns in swing constituencies. The peer has given the party over £5million since 2003 through a firm called Bearwood Corporate Services.
The new figures show that £1.1million was sent directly to 56 marginals from Conservative headquarters, where deputy chairman Lord Ashcroft holds the purse strings, while £5million was raised locally by Tory activists.'
Tory Lord Ashcroft's plan to buy election revealed - mirror.co.uk

katex 16-03-2010 13:37

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I just wonder how many M.P.'s were brought up in the area they represent. After all, David Cameron himself had no connection with Witney (even though has a small cottage there now). Our own Arthur Davidson wasn't, and had tried for Blackpool South and Preston North before he was finally elected for Accrington (before Hyndburn).

Wynonie Harris 16-03-2010 13:39

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797620)
Who?

I was just hoping there must be at least one local Tory activist, not angered by the imposed candidate, willing to give her a hand.

:rolleyes:

What 'is name...you know, that bloke who knows his place and always doffs his cap to the noble lords of this fair isle. ;)

garinda 16-03-2010 13:43

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 797626)
I just wonder how many M.P.'s were brought up in the area they represent. After all, David Cameron himself had no connection with Witney (even though has a small cottage there now). Our own Arthur Davidson wasn't, and had tried for Blackpool South and Preston North before he was finally elected for Accrington (before Hyndburn).

We've discussed this before, and found there are very few, especially party leaders, from Churchill and Thatcher, to Brown.

Hyndburn has been 'locally' represented since Ken won in 1983, and there does seem to be some weight to the argument that people have a preference for someone knowing the local area well.

Hyndburn Conservative Association certainly think so.

:rolleyes:

garinda 16-03-2010 13:46

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 797627)
What 'is name...you know, that bloke who knows his place and always doffs his cap to the noble lords of this fair isle. ;)

Uriah Heep?

He was a very humble toady.

Is he a member here?

Wynonie Harris 16-03-2010 13:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797631)
Uriah Heep?

He was a very humble toady.

Is he a member here?

Stop it off! We don't want him disappearing again. As Jaysay said, he's a sensitive lad! ;)

katex 16-03-2010 13:56

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797630)
We've discussed this before, and found there are very few, especially party leaders, from Churchill and Thatcher, to Brown.


I know Garinda, but would still like to see the figures ... if you can google it, may be helpful ... I have tried but can't get them.

Hyndburn has been 'locally' represented since Ken won in 1983, and there does seem to be some weight to the argument that people have a preference for someone knowing the local area well.

Davidson was only defeated by 21 votes though.

Hyndburn Conservative Association certainly think so.

:rolleyes:

LOL.. :D

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797631)
Uriah Heep?

He was a very humble toady.

Is he a member here?

Loved this analysis of this character's humbleness I came across the other day:

'Uriah Heep, a character from David Copperfield. I suggest you do further research on this individual. His name is now used as a descriptive term for a person who is obsequiously humble but really he is actually hypercritical: in that he nurses greed, rage and/or a sense of entitlement beneath this facade'

garinda 16-03-2010 14:40

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 797633)
Stop it off! We don't want him disappearing again. As Jaysay said, he's a sensitive lad! ;)

Who?

Sulky Simon?

Flouncy Fred?

HisMastersVoiceHBC?

I'm struggling. Unless we're on different people.

garinda 16-03-2010 14:48

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 797626)
I just wonder how many M.P.'s were brought up in the area they represent.

66.6% weren't.

:s_evil:

:D

Wynonie Harris 16-03-2010 15:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797646)
HisMastersVoiceHBC?

Somehow, I don't think it'll be him! :D

accyman 16-03-2010 15:25

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i dont think people object to somone been elected who wasnt born and bred here but do object to a unknown been slung on our doorstep weeks before an election claiming they have our best interests at heart .The conservative party must have scutinised every members family tree looking for a link to accrington thattehy could march in with lol

hang on has she actualy moved here yet lol

jaysay 16-03-2010 15:59

Re: Conservative candidate named.
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 797590)
Although as you've informed us, the majority of the local Conservative Association have turned their backs on her, and aren't offering any help or funding, surely there must be one or two young Cameronites in Hyndburn, who'll go on the knock with her, and help with any lickin'?

Oh perhaps there isn't two, as you hinted when we discussed the sedan chair?

One?

Come on, we must be able to muster at least one willing sap.

Well given the fact there is a full local election with one third of the seats up for grabs I'm sure Karen will get mention, something like oh by the way can Karen Buckley also rely on your support at the General:D


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