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I didn't sign because it's content was obvious it came from me. You did not see the (now deleted)venom he posted last night or you may take a different view. People who direct comment about a persons family should make sure that there are no black sheep in theirs. |
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Mancie will accept sparring with Garinda in good heart and with a certain spirit - some of the others who know him less well may take offence. They are all grown-ups and what they write is in the public domain -if they don't like it all they have to do is switch thread. Garinda brought up a new argument in the topic and got jumped on as far as I could see and accused injustly of a personal attack. I believe he just defended himself and his opinions with words after that. As to unsigned red karma it is cowardly - to write nasty insinuations to someone about family members who are no longer here as well is just downright nasty in my humble opinion.:(:mad: |
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Again showing your mealy-mouthed weakness, by only hinting at some sinister secret regarding my late father, and aunt. Must be awful, not being able to say something, and only skirt around an issue. Spit it out woman...and face the concequences. Unlike the silly karma thing on here, I do belief that what goes around...comes around. (I'm referring to karma by the way, not my mother coming round to your flat...to er, defend her dead husband.) Back on thread. I presume some didn't take recreational drugs as a young teen at the High School, only at a later date. So what's their excuse for having a brain that has a lot in common with scrabbled egg? :Banane39: |
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I honestly laughed, thinking it was someone just pathetically scraping the barrel. Someone always blabs to my mother, about some of the things posted on here. She won't be laughing tomorrow, sadly for old Mags. As said previously, I'm but a pussy cat. :rofl38: |
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Thanks for the messages but I really don't want to stick around on a forum where certain members can get away with whatever they like and others get banned for a week.
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Not when they bring up issues relating to my brothers activities - as if I have something to do with it! They don't then call me by my first name like they know me! Get it? Idiots only see what they want to see here. Divi's just protecting their "friends" like Garinda even if they are vindictive, idiots!:( |
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I protect no-one, just give me opinion, still if yer having another paddy, think what yeh want.:rolleyes:
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Paranoia.
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I would just like to thank the person who anonymously gave me Karma, with a message why I sided with a sycophant like Rindi, many thanks whoever you are, the only problem you've got is your so flaming stupid it was green not red
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Chronic cannabis use in teenagers can decrease IQ, says new research http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...se-iq-research:joint: :rolleyes: |
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I haven't been on accyweb for a few days and I'm surprised at what I'm reading here! This has nothing to do with the title of the thread, and seems to be more about people venting their own frustrations on other people in the anonymous safety of the internet! None of it seems relevant and quite a bit of it very personal. It's not very nice when reading a few pages at once.
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Appallingly bad memory is already listed as a possible side effect.
For example some poor soul saying they were off somewhere, then wandering back in, but a short time later. Could also be listed as not knowing their own mind, poor self-control, lacking in steel, or even just talking rubbish. :rolleyes: |
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Oh, and aggression.
Terrible aggression. Sometimes acompanied by threats of violence, and actual bodily harm. What happened to that old hippy guff, about peace and love, man? :mosher: |
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At it again. You simply cannot help yourself can you? Why don't you just admit it. Admit it that you are shape shifting Traffic clone (thas Traffic Clones, as opposed to Traffic Cones, thats Cones for Traffic) because I am finding it increasingly difficult to believe that you are in fact a human being
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We've done poor self-control.
Someone mentioned a diminished sense of humour. Anyone ever evidenced this, so we can add it to the growing list of possible side-effects? |
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Two people I know that spent their 'youth' smoking cannabis. You can scoff at this all you like. But it is just my observation.
1) He is on the sick claiming benefits for depression and anxiety. Also has problems sleeping, though his father was a light sleeper and that might somehow be passed on??. He is obsessed with something he calls "the system" and now follows rastarfarian religion (or tries too) he spent a lot of his time listening to people noam chomsky & david icke and now has moved on to rasta political speakers 2) started off doing hairdressing, realised that wasn't for him and starting doing a course spraying cars and stuff. Either during or after that(i don't remember) he joined the army. He has just left the army this year and now has a job examining welding and stuff like that. He examines parts to make sure they are good enough for stuff like nuclear submarines So the long term effects might vary from person to person? |
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I've certainly never said anything that would contradict your open question. If you can, concentrate, and see what I've actually posted, many, many times. You'll see that in reality what I said is that there's some risk taking recreational drugs, and it's nothing to do with quality control. Some users suffer very little debilitating side effects, and not all 'soft' drug users go on to become addicted, and dependent on drugs such as heroin. Although a minority will. A risk that will increase, in my opinion, because some would see it as a geeen light, and usage would increase, if recreational drugs were decriminalised. Having had some vast experience of drugs taken recreationally, both socially with successful professionals, who would be viewed as worthwhile members of society, and who suffer very few side-effects, to working with young teens, who are forced to sell their bodies on the streets to feed their addictions, this is my considered opinion. I won't be changing my mind on the matter, any time soon. Certainly nothing I've read in this thread has tempted me into doing so. |
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In fact you seem a very nice, and a good hearted sort, who at least trys to keep an open mind. Though I'm afraid we'll never see certain things in the same way, but that's just life. Kestrelx on the other hand is a different matter. For someone to use a public, family, internet forum, to extol the pleasures to be had from taking recreational drugs, boasting about taking illegal narcotics including L.S.D. and heroin, and with no long-term effects to himself, luckily I believe, was both a stupid, and dangerous thing to post on Accy Web, and it disgusts me that a few pro-decriminalisation supporters fail to see this too. It sickens me what he posted, and nothing I've read since will change my mind on this issue either. |
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^ Was more singling out cannabis rather than illegal drugs on a whole.
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I've also said, umpteen times, I agree, about your point regarding drink. Alcohol has the potential to cause sometimes fatal illness, as well as utter misery for those who love a alcoholic. Decriminalising recreational drugs wouldn't change this, or address some of the very serious issues associated with the misuse of alcohol. |
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Any other questions, you might think you'd like me to answer? They've already been answered, trust me. Every thought I have on this subject has already been given, innumerous times, in this thread. Read it. ;) |
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I have read it..heh
Friend #1 that I mentioned earlier. He says stuff like this "The government made alcohol legal because it distracts the masses and makes them docile and keeps them in control. They keep Weed illegal because it opens minds and encourages spirituality" He dives me nuts with this stuff. I don't seem him that much now. Phew |
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I argue that all drugs should be legalized and controlled ... I do not see that drug use will increase ... it's thru the roof already. If drugs were legalized, overnite the cartels would be out of business. Making drugs illegal is little more than sweeping a problem under the carpet. Control and supervision is possible and workable (hate that word for some reason:rolleyes:) Here are some decent arguments for and against needle parks:
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Eric has the insight of living over the pond where the drug situation is far far worse than it is here.
You have a good point. How many would quit if they was not illegal? A lot of people might do it for that thrill. Having to "score" drugs from dealers can be a very scary experience for somebody in their youth that is not in the same mindset. This is one of the reasons that sometimes makes me lean towards legalisation |
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The use of recreational drugs here has gone through the roof here, over the last thirty years ago. Both locally, and nationally. In the past there'd usually be one dealer supplying a few neighbouring towns. Nowadays you can score within minutes, after one quick text on your mobile. Easier and faster than getting a cab, and sometimes cheaper. It could be said this increased usage as happened at the same time that there's been less and less criminal prosecutions, for anything other than supplying drugs. Smoke a joint in public, and if you're really unlucky, you might meet a plod, who'll make you extinguish it. I personally have friends who take every drug going. None of them have ever been done for personal possession. When was the last time you read in the local press of anyone who's been prosecuted for possession of an illegal drug? Yet the number of people using drugs locally has increased a thousand fold in the last few decades. Coincidence, that the number of users has increased so dramatically, a few of whose lives will end miserably because of drugs, whilst at the same time there's been a marked 'turn a blind eye' policy regarding the use of recreational drugs for personal use? As stated earlier, in my opinion, I think not. My opinions are arrived at through numerous interactions with drugs taken as recreation. Some of which details I've already given in this thread, others I haven't. No way are my opinions arrived at from a position of naivety. Trust me, that's really very far from the case. From being a young clubber, then an art student, and then working in the fashion business for so long, drugs were very much part of the worlds I lived in. When it comes to the small minority on here, the nice ol' pot smoking pro-legalise supporters, versus myself, in deciding who knows more about the myriad of drugs available, from glue through to the latest must have designer drug for clubbers, and all their pros and cons. If I was a betting man, you can bet your sweet bippy that my money would definitely be on myself knowing more about recreational drugs per se. Much more so than ol' Grandpa Walton, rocking away on his verandah, toking away on a big fat spliff, or Alice Nutter, puffing away in her hermetically sealed bubble. No offence by the way. Any illustrative similarity to any living forum member is purely coincidental. Besides, Eric's much more like John Boy. ;):D |
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Drugs are much more readily available to young people now, than at any other time in the past. Fact. Seen with my own eyes in Hyndburn, and elsewhere. Most young dope smokers would be genuinely shocked if someone told them that smoking weed is actually a criminal offence. Mainly because the law more or less turns a blind eye to possession nowadays. Decriminalisation would give the green light that recreational drugs are harmless. For most they are. For a minority they'll lead to a life of misery, and for some death. It's a risk. You never know when you take your first drug socially whether you'll have a great time, and little or no side effects, or your personality will mean you'll soon become addicted, and hooked on the effects, needing stronger and stronger drugs to recreate that initial euphoria. I live in the real world, and it's a world where drug usage is very widespread. I have young relatives about to enter that world. I'll do everything in my power to get them to weigh up the risks that taking drugs as a recreation bring. I hope they survive that world. Most of my friends have. Some didn't. |
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Will do again, when I see scum dealers supplying young teens, from parked cars. Do I call plod every time I've seen someone have a cheeky line in the bogs on a night out? Nah, Vern. Like havin' a laugh me, when I go out. Not spending all night on the blower. Especially as the law now couldn't give a hoot who's doing what to themselves narcotically, as long as they aren't dealing. ;) |
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I've reported scum dealers in both places. I ain't fussy, geographically. Nor do I give a flying fox, if in the eyes of some, that makes me a 'grass', in the lootin', tootin', criminal supportin' underworld, where they inhabit. I'll sleep. Despite the alarms going off. As people go out on the rob, to fund their habit. It's a hard knock life... |
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When we try to trade your wild inaccuracies, for things called actual facts? Good. Let's begin. I posted, and said... Hypothetically, if I was in the armed forces, and ordered to fire plastic bullets, or water cannon, on mobs of rioters, out endangering innocent lives, whilst looting, and carrying out arson attacks, I would. I would, because that was the job I'd have chosen to do, and that involves obeying orders. It would make no difference to me who the mob actually consisted of, because unlike the vast majority of members on here, you said hypothetically you wouldn't report your child, if you knew they'd been out looting and rioting. I remember, after I asked you, if you had a child who'd stolen a large sum of money off an elderly grandparent, would you report that crime, and you similarly said no. Shamefully, in my opinion. An attitude which reflects badly on the society we've created. Then, as now, it's my opinion, that what you say you'd do, in this hypothetical situation, that this is an example of bad parenting, in which children fail to learn a very useful lesson in life, that being for the majority of the times in this life, actions have consequences. This is the reality of what was said, and posted. This is when I say...'Please quote any evidence to the contrary.' You, of course can't. As there isn't any. A day or so later, I'll ask 'No luck, coming up with the evidence Vern?' Depending how many empties are on the floor, you either have a little chuckle, or start mubbling on about fisty-cuffs, rumble in the jumble sale, or some other such nonsense. Provide a quote, which shows everything I've just posted about shooting poor lickle innocent babies, isn't in fact the actual truth of the matter. If you can. Evidence, to the contrary? Vern 'on your pushbike' Tebbit, it's over to you.... We'll be waiting. ;) |
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Oh is it down to me?..sorry was watching TOTP's 77..anyway whatever Garinda said he is a Nazi...no way round it he wants to kill people
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Any evidence, a quote say, to back up yet another wild, and wholly inaccurate claim? No? Thought not. If posting false claims was a crime, with amputation as the punishment, you'd just be a bit of hairy skin, and an ugly pair of ears by now. :rolleyes: |
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Oh Garinda, that's shocking! Did he really say such things? When, and in which threads? I want to see evidence, before I can believe such things! A quote, where he actually says such terrible words. You can't? Oh Rindy, how on Earth can we believe what you say about Mancie is true now, without the slightest scrap of evidence? :rolleyes: |
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By the way, what are 'healthy' lads?
Healthy, as opposed to what? Sick, or disabled? I suppose some fools would have labelled me as being a 'healthy lad', at twenty two, and twenty three. The thick gits. ;) |
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What's your problem now, Vern, you silly goose? Surely that particular li'l hat won't fit you? I was referring to the misguided people, who would have wrongly labelled me as being 'healthy' in my early twenties, purely based on their assumption that to them, I appeared 'healthy'. Where do you fit in? Thankfully I didn't know you, when l was in my early twenties. |
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