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Ooops! I didn't know you were Mr Showbiz and I had to run it by you before deciding whether to post someone's name? :rolleyes:

Keith's alright he has a farm down in Somerset where he spends all this free time - raising free-range chickens - so I heard or read somewhere?

While you were in the bath with him, Garinda, where you sniffing anything? ;)

Well I suppose if you have kids and they take drugs and get hurt you will always feel the guilt that it was your fault - which I suppose is the motivation to stop them doing it - bit of a catch 22.

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Er...no.

Well toasties, that old Joycie would make on request. They ponged a bit.

Sniff?

You mean like amyl-nitrate, but are too much of a pussy to say?

Again, no.

Keith Allan ain't queer, no one at the baths was.

Although Joycie was a bit odd.

She used to serve you her toasties slid off her Daily Mirror.

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Only if you'd been stupid enough to encourage them, and denied the risks involved, would you.

(See other thread.)

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Who's old Joycie? Can you give us insight into this world?

Yep could have been amyl nitrate, or sulphate or cocaine? Keith has been a big drug user - hasn't he!?

Isn't one of his claims to fame is that he stripped off naked on stage at a Max Bygraves performance, who then said "You'll never work in show business again!" :rolleyes:;)

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As I said, as you're clearly so fascinated, and I'd simply hate to spoil it for you, you'll just have to wait for the book.

;)

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The legality of amyl-nitrate, which increases your heart rate dramatically, and causes a brief high when sniffed, is questionable.

The law's overcome by selling 'poppers', it's street name, as a 'room aroma', despite the horrible things stinking like sweaty feet.

The last place I saw these dangerous drugs openly for sale, as I posted on here at the time, was in Accrington Market Hall.

I've also seen fifty odd year olds, so called respected members of the community, sat openly sniffing them in local boozers in Hyndburn.

Disgusting things.

Despite some people saying the risks when taking recreational drugs are negligible, that's wrong.

People have died through taking this crap.

All for a temporary, chemically induced high.

So not worth the risk.

I'd certainly not return to places where it's use was tolerated.

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I'd agree with you about Amyl makes you feel like your gonna have a heart attack. But Amyl Nitrate is not the same as magic mushrooms, different effect, different experience.

You are so adamantly against drugs - I just wonder how you managed as you seem to be mixing with people that would have been using them!

So did you voice your disgust in their faces? As you do in ours? :rolleyes:

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It make come as some suprise, but I've never really been influenced by dicky heads.

Same on here.

Plus, having good self-control helps.

:)

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Is that a collective 'our'?

As in 'our souls'?

:rolleyes:

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If it is, I think one or two of your hemorrhoids might have dropped of.

Which must be a blessing.

:)

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I don't know about your life and it's not on my list of priorities to find out about the details!

The issue is if you knew some famous folks were you as vocal about being against drugs to them as you are here?

At the end of the day there are many threats to a childs life in this world - such as drinking bleach and running out in front of cars! As we become adults we can also be killed in car crashes and so on - life is full of conflict and threats to life!

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As it happens I don't have piles! So you seem to be trying to fob off the issue here - typical Chameleon activities! :confused::rolleyes::D

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In some cases, not others -for to be "a pain in the arse" one must know how it really feels, surely...:rolleyes::D

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Generally, drinking bleach, and running out in front of traffic, is not promoted as being something that's pleasurable.

Nor have I seen any evidence on here, of people glibly minimising the risks of doing such things. Instead, preferring to promote the thrills to be had.

The 'I drank bleach three times, but never became addicted' mentality, we've occasionally seen from some.

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Probably why I'm a republican.

Much more effective to treat the unfortunate with a red-hot poker.

Short, sharp, shock.

Give, give, give.

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Ya but you've got previous of singing the praises of illegal substances:rolleyes:

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Ah so you did try Amyl then:rolleyes:

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Personally I always find it so much easier, giving my own personal opinion, than say, someone else's.

I think some find that task easier when there's underlying problems with personality disorders, brought on my goodness knows what.

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And you certainly are opinionated. However, I have to say that your posts are a least tinged with wit and humour, which is more than can be said for some "one liners" on here. I'll go do some work now, lest there be those who feel I sit here in a drug-induced coma all day.
Doesn't the sky look lovely when it is so pink?

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Your stepping on very dangers ground for some one so ignorant:rolleyes:

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What line of work are you employed in?

Do you get to keep popping on here throughout the day, when there's no one else in the bogs?

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As already stated, I do feel blessed, only having my own opinions, rather than those of other people.

Probably why I find it relatively easy in sharing them.

:rolleyes:

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You obviously are an experienced man - when it comes to piles and red hot pokers.

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You're obviously not as daft as you first appear.

When your accute powers of observation are later revealed.

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So what - it was available over the counter in many shops at the time.:eek:

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You might even suprise us yet still further, by exhibiting clear thinking patterns, or even humour.

:rolleyes:

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Piles are veins in the backside that swell up due to stress, heat, pregnancy, old age. I think treating them with a red hot poker would lead to several weeks in hospital!

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As posted, it still is, in Accrington Market Hall.

They don't openly sell heroin in there though.

Was that more difficult to purchase than amyl-nitrate, when you took them both?

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This is when I seriously question the long-term effects on the mind of taking a whole myriad of recreational drugs.

Most people would realise, as our poll shows, Accy Web really isn't the place to win the argument, about decriminalising recreational narcotics usage.

Most would have the sense to let the matter rest.

But no, some keep coming back for a little fix, to feed what appears to be a terrible addiction, to wanting to be noticed.

Just say no.

The next time the voices goad you to do it.

It'll make for a more contented life in the long run.

:)

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The media (in answer to your first question).
Don't have to wait for anyone else for the bog as it tends to be free most of the time at home. I'm a self-employed consultant with no-one watching over my shoulder. Ah, the freedom!!
What do you do (or is that a closely guarded secret)?

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Couple of questions Jay!
What exactly is this dangerous ground you speak of?
Why do you think I am ignorant? Ignorant of what?

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And of course being one of the sheep:rolleyes:

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If you'd care to take time out to find out just a little more about people on here you may gain some knowledge, try looking at the whats on thread, think it may broaden your mind somewhat:rolleyes:

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Again, as usual it seems, you have failed completely to answer a perfectly frank and open-ended question. Exactly what have I said or done to offend? If I have been in any way offensive perhaps you would care to explain what that offence is? And the dangerous ground?
Do you not think that some of the posts on here are far worse than anything I place on it? I myself have been called variously ignorant, a clown, stupid and other things that I most definitely am not. Do I take offence? Absolutely not! Why? Because it is just a forum for debate and people will disagree on all manner of things but it shouldn't come down to "name-calling". As for broadening my mind, I doubt if there is anyone on this forum who is more broad minded than I (read my posts and judge).
If I have offended you in any way that appears to be personal then it is totally unintended but if you are suggesting that I read everyone's personal info to avoid saying anything that offends because of personal circumstances, I'm sorry but that is never going to happen.
Incidentally, I'm virtually blind in one eye, but will I take offence at people commenting on disability (which I have never seen myself as - no pun intended)? No, I will not!
I still await an answer to the "dangerous ground" statement.

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You don't know what your talking about? Again - :rolleyes: Someone gave me some - I didn't buy it, also I'll have you know I chose to try it out of free will and decided I didn't like it and never touched it again.:cool:

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Do you suffer from them! :eek::D

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That is "ours" as in; those here who've have been attacked by you over their views on drugs, and I wonder if you've encountered users in your trade (what ever that is/was?) then did you also tell them they were naughty, stupid people and would get hurt by their drug use!? :confused:

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Using the fact that you say you work and intimating that others don't

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So if somebody had given you a free glass of cyanide you'd have tried that two, just because it was free;)

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As I said Jay, I make no attempt to offend anyone by that statement, nor would I. I was simply emphasising that, after being criticised for not reading all the posts on a thread that may run to over a hundred pages, I haven't the time to look at them all, as I have openly stated. It seems that you and I will never agree on many things but please let us agree on this: I will never, ever be knowingly offensive to anyone on this site (or even in life in general). If ever I criticise anyone on a post it will be down to the argument on the thread and my opinions on statements and answers given. I will never hold back but I will not be personally offensive and neither will I take any offence.
Hope that's cleared that one up?

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Like the fairy said Fair enough:rolleyes:

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Cheers! By the way, I remember the fairy called Nuff.

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No, but you took heroin on more than one occasion, as you posted that fact on here.

Did you have to take that two or three times, before thankfully deciding 'you didn't like' that particular illegal drug?

Would you similarly take Bubble, the latest drug of choice, seeing as it costs less than a pint, if someone gave you some for free?

Some of the many party goers in Blackpool, who were shown on last night's '999 What's your emergency?', were in pitiful states.

I suppose that's what happens, when in order to have a good time you need to take a plant fertiliser.

Full of lovely sh-it, and weed resistant.

As you've already wee'd your pants.

Great night out.

:daisy:

Though I'm afraid it's a 'No' from me.

Thanks.

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pedantic point alert:

i thought bubble wasn't actually a plant fertiliser, but that it is sold under the pretence, that is not for human consumption, which then negates various laws

a lot of these "legal highs" are more harmful than some "illegal highs"

but thats a whole different argument for a whole different thread, s'pose.

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What, like the fourteen year olds I was trying to help minimise at least one risk, by encouraging them to use condoms, the next time a disgusting old pig was taking advantage of their addiction, by paying them ten or twenty quid to shag them, so they could score their next hit?

Er...yes.

You can bet your sweet bippy I did.

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Ok, it's not a plant fertilizer, and not technically illegal...at the moment.

If we all chip in, and fork out a whole two quid, and give it you for free, would you take it?

After all, you don't know if you will, or won't like it, until you'v tried it...and it won't cost you a penny.

Nothing to lose.

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Now that's what I call a great party.

MEPHEDRONE - YouTube

Where do you want it delivered?

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Ya known him all mi life:D

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Yes, actually I do.

I do seriously wonder about your thinking.

As I pointed out yesterday, you do know that because there's so little public support for recreational drugs being made legal, that you will NEVER win your argument here on Accy Web, don't you?

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glad to see you can take so lightly, offering to purchase and supply a "plant fertiliser" to fellow human being!

i believe "bubble", is actually illegal, class b drug

there are however many "legal highs" still available for sale, however, never been into cheap copies, so think i shall give it a miss, thanks

or was that just a cheap dig at kestrels, at my expense?

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Bubble was made illegal earlier this year? or last year? Its dangerous stuff. Im glad they made it illegal.

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Yes, bubble is now illegal, has been for some time. It's not as popular as it was a couple of years ago.

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Hey, chill dude.

Ain't ya heard drugs is fun?

Peeps have told us on here.

Gospel.

Bang on, bouncy, bouncy, good times

Live a little.

Party on.

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Dopes are like buses.

You wait ages for one...then two come along at once.

:rolleyes:

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back to that old, cant make a valid point, so just resort to dull nonsense, well crack on dreary!
leave you to it! just cannot be bothered!

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The thankfully few on here, keen to promote their pro-legalise recreational drugs agenda, also seem the ones who get the most stressed, and are highly strung.

Why's that?

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Great.

We now have that in writing, and we trust you not to go back on your word.

:)

Just say 'No'.

If you're ever tempted again.

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Just out of curiosity where did you get that from. That it isn't that popular? It is certainly good to know. I read a few times of kids that had died from taking it.

Legal Highs that are chemical based are a real problem. They need to be stamped out. Then that begs the question of the validity of learning towards the side of the legalising of illegal drugs. I agree with what Eric says about it. But seeing the damage they do it just seems so stupid. Its a no-win either way

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Depends where you go.

It is round here, if you haven't much money, and fancy a night out.

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The thankfully few on here, keen to promote reading peoples post before commenting, but very seldom take any notice of what other people say, or they just make up anything they want, then misquote people.

Why's that?

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Oh dear.

Another pro-dope falls by the wayside.

Don't know your own mind?

Lacking in confidence, to do as you say?

Poor self-discipline?

Not got the balls, or the common sense?

Addictedd?

Addicted to public humiliation, and the shame??

:mad:

There is help out there.

Never give up hope that one day you CAN change your life.

Good luck.

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Oh I read it all.

;)

Luckily I have an in-built sewerage system, which allows me to concentrate on only the biggest crap, that some people produce...for us all to wade through.

:)

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what a weak way, of trying to score points
make up LIES about someone, then "bait" the person into responding, so if they respond they can be accused of being a hypocrite, and if they dont the lies get to stand.

cheap, if anyone has read my Pro legalise drugs comments on here, could you let me know please, because i think someone may have been posting in my name.

i havent voted on the poll, and i havent posted condoning drug taking, or its legalisation

the only comment i did make was, the volstead act didnt do america much good, and prohibition didnt seem to work for them.

however there are some that feel they can make assumptions and cast aspersion quite freely, no matter what the facts are, because they believe they are amusing

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So what your saying is your a speed crap reader:D

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Or is that a crap speed reader :confused::rolleyes::D

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Who's talking about you?

Let me at 'em!

I've always tried to defend the underdog.

As well as the humourless, contradictory, and/or paranoid.

Tell Rindy all about it.

There's a good chap.

:gooddog:

This is quite obviously getting you all worked up, and very excited, but please don't try to give me your bone, thanks all the same.

Good boy.

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Don't be silly! Cyanide would kill you dead after a lot of agony!

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Ha!! An interesting point which most people will not be aware of is that amyl nitrite is one of the components of an antidote for cyanide poisoning thanks to its stimulating effect on the heart.

Years ago in another life I used to work with hydrogen cyanide and there was always someone standing by ready to administer this in case of an emergency.

And if I may be allowed to wear my pedant's hat for a little longer the compound is called amyl nitrite not nitrate.

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One time back in "those days" a friend said to me "have a smell of my medicine" turned out to be that stuff. Never knew what it was. That crap is horrible. Had a headache for a quite a while. Can't see why anybody would want to use it

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The fact is that Bubble is a new name for the drug called Mephedrone, mixed with other unknown substances to get more quantity and more money. Since it was banned - the price has gone up and the quality of what passes as Mephedrone now called Bubble is even worse than it was before ( that said the hysteria in the press before Mepehdrone was banned caused people to think that people were dying from Mephedrone when it wasn't the Mephedrone that actually killed them, it was something else - a mixture of other drugs and booze) it was made illegal and now in fact more people are taking this drug - Bubble.

So fact is banning it has made the situation worse long term, as kids on Blackburn estates are still going to want a cheap high, and criminals are prepared to mix up even more rubbish and sell it as this Bubble to make more money. No one actually knows what Bubble really is?

Mephedrone ban causes young adults to turn to cheap 'bubble' drug | Mail Online

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Are you talking about Amyl? I agree with you totally it's rubbish and made my heart go so fast I thought it was gonna fail. Apparently it was very big with the gay scene back in the 80's and 90's!

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I think boyh nitrite and nitrate

are commenally called poppers.

Don't think either are good if you have a heart problem.

Maybe others on here who know/think they know better than anyone else.

would like to comment.

They can be bought freely.

Quite good for shirt lifters by all accounts.

I wouldn't know.

Perhaps some on here may.

Maybe some use them so the Bullshine comes through better.

Who knows.

Just saying.

I wait with baited breath.

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On the programme about Shad estate tonight the kids were talking about getting a cheap high with Bubble.

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Yeah. I was.

They were calling Mephedrone 'Bubble' Long before it was made illegal. I think the 'Bubble' name is a local thing? on the legal highs program one lad named it something else.

I have a friend. He is on sickness benefits for depression, anxiety and alcoholism. I have known him since I was 3 years old. It hurts to have to tell him that I have finally had enough of him. He stole £40 from his mother. Must be on drugs again-- I don't want to know anybody that steals from their own family.

Damn. watching that Shadsworth program really depressed me.

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Amyl nitrate is not a recreational drug. It is a reagent used in organic synthesis and an additive in diesel fuel.

Poppers are various organic nitrites including amyl nitrite. As I said in an earlier post it is also used against cyanide poisoning and is commonly kept available in chemical laboratories in case of this and other emergencies. It is also used to treat heart diseases such as angina as it dilates the coronary arteries, thus improving blood flow to the heart muscle.

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OK so they were calling it Bubble - but isn't the stuff called Bubble now not pure Mephedrone?

I know that since Mephedrone was banned, the quality has gone right down and the price gone right up - and more people are taking it. That is according to official sources.

Thing with taking drugs to cope with problems - the problem is still there when the drugs have worn off and you still have to face it and pay for the drugs. So it's just a downward spiral.

Sounds like your mate is on that spiral.

The program didn't get me down, but it's sad for these kids with no future and hardly any prospects.

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Good information Sue. But what effect does Amyl have on the arteries for someone repeatedly taking it for fun?

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Never having had anal sex, with man, woman, or tethered Oswaldtwistle beast, I can't really comment, on poppers as a muscle relaxant.

Personally I always presumed that nasty stuff was something Catholics did, so as not to have babies, whilst staying in their God's good books.

All I can add, was that the last time I saw poppers being openly used was by a 'well respected member of the community', relative of a forum member, and friend of a well known politican, who was sat sniffing them in a local pub, with his wife and adult child, and they were all wearing woolies, which weren't being lifted, and not shirts.

Though I do know this person is a long time dope smoker.

Like way back.

Unconnected?

Who knows.

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I was actually in the boozer with forum member Accyman at the time, who'll confirm this to be true.

It was definitely woolies they were wearing, un-lifted, not shirts.

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Before it really became the current party drug of choice if you can't run to Charlie, this crap was mainly called meow meow.

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We're told this very popular recreational drug was classified as illegal in the UK 2010.

Would you really like the law overturned, so kids can get their hands on it legally?

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As stated earlier, this forum really isn't the place where you're EVER going to win that argument here.

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Thats going to be the case with any powdered drugs. Mixing it with other stuff to make it go further/make more money. Then it becomes even worse and more of a risk to take it. There seems to be little to no awareness of the dangers of this stuff.

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Never really understood that term.

What sort of shirts get lifted?

Like matching T-shirts, worn by close chums?

:D

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...and if this drug was made legal once more, and there was some sort of quality control for this popular recreational drug, that would make it somehow better?

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Forget about poppers being a supposed muscle relaxant, I think some would have more luck with Rohypnol.


;):D

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I think I'm beginning to understand what the term 'shirt lifter' is now.

Is this it happening, mid lift?

:eek:

Personally I don't think it looks very nice, and am quite sure it's not for me.

Besides, I think they'd struggle with the mother of pearl buttons on my bespoke shirts.

;):D

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Of course it's not, nor will it ever be if your going to cut it with diesel, have you seen the price of that stuff?
:eek:

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Hell your quick on, mind you so will illegal substances, it just takes a little longer:rolleyes:

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I see you have a very good knowledge about these substances how they affect people what they cost and where they're available, must be in the bubble:rolleyes:

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Do we then make everything dangerous illegal?
Let's see:
drugs
smoking
alchohol
bad driving
bungee jumping
boxing (most contact sports)
crossing the road
mountain climbing
pot holing
The list goes on forever.
It is a lifestyle choice and as long as people know the risks it should be down to them. Making lifestyle choices illegal is like censorship, you can always make up your own mind without someone having to make it up for you.

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Someone else has made a similar post before, a very valid point the first time around now we are just going around in circles, why?
:)

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You forgot -

Rape.
Murder.
Kiddy fiddlin'.

As long as people know the risks, all should be a legal lifestyle choice.

To suggest otherwise is an outrageous attack on decent peoples' civil liberties.

:rolleyes:

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Hell wouldn't want to live in your world, the only problem there is lifestyle choice usually ends up costing society dear already god knows what it would be like in your world, maybe you'd be better of emigrating to the outer Mongolia;)

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I'm sure there'll be at least one person who agrees with you, Mohammed Ibrahim, if no one else does.

East Lancashire dad continues battle to deport death driver (From Lancashire Telegraph)

He has rights, and should be free to carry on with his lifestyle choices, unhindered by any silly laws.

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Not an argument, Garinda. Yours is a list of crimes against others, mine was a list of things that people do which are of no danger to anyone other than themselves, unless you subscribe to the argument that all drug users (for instance) are a danger to others, which of course the vast majority are not.

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Drug use is, or at least can be, dangerous, I've never said otherwise, but so are all the other things in the list I posted. Would you ban alcohol as well, or is that okay because it has become socially acceptable over the years. Alcohol has been guilty of bringing about far more misery over the years than drugs (violence, anti social behaviour and even family poverty and other problems). I don't smoke and never have but I don't go clambering for it to be banned, even before the ban in public places stopped it being rammed down my throat. We cannot go banning things just because we don't personally like them, we just stay away from them (a bit like turning the tv over if you don't like the programme).

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A couple of very good points there Houseboy - I've made similar points on the daddy of this thread...

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ugs-55943.html

Using drugs itself is a personal choice. As you say, there is no similarity at all to child abuse, murder or rape which are all violations of others rights ( the point made by Garinda).

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There is no similarity to taking drugs and the 3 crimes you mention. These are abusing peoples lives and taking away their rights.

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How do you know that somewhere down the production -supply chain some child or adult was not abused or raped, mistreated or murdered because of the money involved in this illegal trade? How can you ignore how much misery there is because of this whole business in the poor countries where they are produced, where many people have no choice but to be forced into slave labour or transporting these drugs just so that they can be available for people in the West to have a full range of "lifestyle choices".

What I really find sad is that so many people seem to need to smash their senses and their brains, ending up wrecked and having no good sensations at the end of the day. It is always the simpler things in life that bring the greatest sensory pleasures -don't forget that. Decent food and company, a walk in the countryside, time spent with people you love...