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D-Day 2! Go for it folks & let the Brits once again fight for what's right & freedom for ourselves & Europe!

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Get OUT there and vote LEAVE!

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One must also realise that voting Leave will also give us a very good chance of getting rid of DC as there are adequate numbers of the Parliamentary Tory Party ready to submit a vote of No Confidence in DC which could very likely trigger a leadership contest. Likely then that DC will resign and whoever takes over will most likely get rid of the toxic Osborne and some other DC acolytes. Vote out - we have nothing to lose but so much to gain.

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I have been and voted and it was busy....far busier than any general or local election.

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Posted ours over a week ago - both OUT.

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Just a question, have seen voting has opened in Gibralter , my question Did they get to vote in the Common Market Vote in the 70s?:confused:

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No .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...ligible_voters

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Ta JCB its what i expected to be honest, another attempt by the remain camp top win the vote. dont surprise me at all.:rolleyes:

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A few weeks ago I said that I hadn't met anyone who was going to vote "Remain" . I still haven't .

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oh i have mate, not many granted.

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Didn't manage to get up early,(good stuff that real ale) but put my cross in the box to rid our country of the unelected bureaucracy of the E.E.C. :alright:

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That is because you do not socialise, or come into contact with the likes of Richard Branson, John Major, Tony(spit) Blair(a bigger liar than Tom Pepper).....or the Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley bankers.....be grateful for this.....because if you DID move in those circles, you would need to count your fingers after you shook hands.

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I would have been there at 7 am.....except I couldn't get into the bathroom.....himself took longer over his ablutions this morning.....but I was there for 7.30...... Before I had a drink or a bite to eat.
I just showered, dressed and went OUT and put my cross in that box!

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I ain't voting because it's been 9 months of bull...nowt will change either way. Cameron has 4 years left and nothing is going to change... Peeing into the wind is all I can say,and our local MP sought that , I just hope he goes next election because he's a liar on the Westminster gravy train...shame on you GJ

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not voting is dumb in my eyes, to assume nowt will change proves it.:rolleyes:

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Certainly nothing would change if no one voted, Odders.
As you hope your current MP is replaced next time, will it be as a result of others' efforts? Go and vote leave if only to cancel out the one vote your MP has.

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Why bother... Those in the know already have the postal votes as out...wait until the early hours and watch the switch...Cameron has it nailed it's just a game show for the public

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I will not vote because it's pointless, I have better things to do than queuing up for pure nonsense

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Nowt will change while Cameron is in so why bother...the Scots showed it

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Times have changed and money over people counts...our local MP showed that...waste of space, stick your vote because nothing will change

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I can totally understand where you are coming from...but with the greatest respect to you Odders....things WILL NOT change if you do not go out and try to change them by execising your democratic right.
By not voting you are saying that you do not mind if your laws are deteremined in another country........and YOUR VOTE could be the one that tips the balance one way or another.
I am a fine one to talk, as in the past I have spoiled my paper or on odd occasions not voted...but that was because the choice I was offered in General Elections was no choice at all(meaning that all the parties were the same brand of politics).
But this referendum is different.
Yes there has been a lot of hot air spoken, a lot of lies told, a lot of issues fudged...but you have had all this time to do your own independent research...to determine from the information that is out there what kind of future you want for your children and your grand children.......there are only two choices IN(?) or OUT.
A choice between democracy or dictatorship.
But hey ho if that is how you feel.

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Sorry MargP but I feel I am wasting my time, if after my dinner I have a change of heart I will go to my polling station and vote out, but seriously with all the tit for tat I shyed away as much as possible... I don't care because nothing will change

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If voting is pointless then the opinion of a none voter is even more pointless. Don't complain unless your prepared to get off your backside and at the very least vote one way or the other.

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I hope you DO have a change of heart, because by voting you are sending a message to the likes of GJ and Tony Blair, John Major,Richard Branson...all those who live lives that are so far removed from the lives that we lead...and the message will be THAT WE MATTER.... that we have an opinion...that we are not cash cows to be l milked of taxes sent to another country(continent) to have them given back to us to make it look as though we are getting some kind of benefit.......it IS NOT a benefit if you have paid taxes to get it.

I really can see how the politicians and the media have given people Referendum Fatigue...but it really is an important issue and you should be putting your opinion into the pot by voting.

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Thing is if leave does win the day, the likelyhood is Cameron @ Osborne will be dumped, whilst there is arseholes on both sides, that alone to me is worth voting oer.

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Oh yes....and we desperately need your OUT vote.

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Seems there has been a mass shooting in a German Cinema, perhaps we will find out who is behind it when VOTING has finished?:rolleyes: wouldn't be a big shock at all, if that were to be the case.

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The mater and I voted this morning. It's a secret vote, so I won't tell you that I voted out.

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I wonder how many times those that take your voting card hear "ip dip dog.sh..." or "eeny meeny miny mo" coming from the booths.... :)

My vote is secret too. So secret that even I don't know what it is yet ...

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The people that I have met up with during the course of today did not seem to need to resort to that sort of nursery rhyme to make their decision......and I have spoken to quite a few.

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Perhaps yeh spoke to sensible people not the braindead?:rolleyes:

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All I can say is "good on yer!" all those who've made the effort, win/lose at least you tried to bring about a change & that alone deserves thanks. As to the abstainers & remainers, if we're enmeshed in the deepening mire & our liberties further curtailed, don't go bitching about it as you were the root of the problem!

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Well after much serious thought, i have come to the conclusion that the party i have always supported (and so has Paris) have completely ignored the wishes of the majority of their voters? the arrogance of them is astounding to me,:mad:

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I was first entitled to vote in 1968 when I reached my 21st bithday, I have voted in every election both national and regional ever since, it at least allows me to put my opinion forward in any discussion, debate etc; what I cannot stand is anyone spouting about this is wrong or that is wrong, when they cannot even be bothered to get off their backsides and put a cross on a piece of paper.
If you are not prepared to vote, then you are not entitled to an opinion. End of story.

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By the way I am now eight months away from my 70th birthday

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Even the times when I haven't voted for any political party(in General elections).....I have gone down to the polling station and scrawled something on my ballot paper...like 'None of the above'.
I don't want anyone to think I am apathetic, lazy or not bothered...it is just that sometimes my conscience would not allow me to place my X in any of their boxes....because they did not deserve my vote.

In local elections it is different.......I vote for the person who I think is most capable of doing the job, regardless of which party they happen to belong to.
I don't think party politics has any place in local elections......all our local councillors should be working collaboratively for the good of the town.

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Thank goodness this isn't important, how on earth would you cope if it was?

(Pathetic).

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Well yeh aint that much older than me.:D

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Not able to vote in every election that has happened in my lifetime due to being overseas a fair bit, but I have voted in everyone that I could. No hard and fast alliance with any party, I have voted both Tory and Labour, and also UKIP in the odd one. My decision has always been based on the most believable manifesto, what I thought of the party hierarchy at that time, and most of all, whichever way I thought was the right way to vote.
I voted Leave and proud to want our Sovereignty, Democracy, Rule of Law, Economy and our Security and Military to be controlled by us, the British.

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I will drink to that Barrie......make mine a 'builders tea':)

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Well I am proud to say I am 16.....the rest is VAT! :D

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Well....we have to sleep on it now.
I am dreading waking up in the morning and finding that the British public have been too lily livered to grasp this opportunity and run with it.
There is nothing I would like more than to spit in Jean Claude Junkers eye....metaphorically that is.

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As one of our Australian members put it: Your "Biblical best before age".;)

Seventy aint so bad; I've been that age for almost seven months.

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You're not gonna stay up:eek: I am. Ok ... so we are five hours behind you guys:D I see Sunderland voted heavily "out" .... Ha'way the lads ... and the lasses too.:dancedog:

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I hope my none vote counted, nothing's going to change,back to normal life and same old crap...how many hours were wasted on this complete bum over tit farce ... I guess it's been a good cover for the bigger things we do have a voice about... Happy Days either way because it won't affect me, nothing will change

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My, aren't you a barrel of laughs? I bet you're a proper party animal when out for a drink!

On another point, here's one of those decisions the eu held back prior to voting

EU announces migrant passpost on EU referendum day | World | News | Daily Express

More joys & enrichment by being part of the eu "Happy house", hopefully though it looks like we might just miss out on this one & the many to follow.

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What's with Liverpool? Voting "In":eek: Probably the scousers found the question too complicated and confusing ... the one's that can read that is.;) Over here, there's still a couple of drinking hours left at the bar. I think I'll head out for a pint or two ... to celebrate. I see that Hyndburn voted overwhelmingly to leave.:alright:

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I haven't surfaced yet.....by that I mean that although awake, I have not ventured downstairs.
Good to hear that Hyndburn voted 'Leave'....that will be one in the eye for our MP.
I was trying to come up with a comment that contained 95% but my brain is not in gear yet.

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If you really think that whichever way you voted, things won't change.....and that this will not affect you.....you are seriously deluded.
If we stay in, we will have no leverage in the EU ever again.....the EU will 'dump' on us(a polite euphemism for covering us with brown smelly stuff) for our audacity.....they will up,our contributions, they will remove our rebate and they will direct as many migrants in our direction as they can.....until we sink under the mire.

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No Eric, if staying up meant that we could cut the ties that bind us to the EU....I would do it. But me staying awake won't guarantee the results I would like to see....and I did not want to be miserable AND tired.

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shhh everybody lets leave a space for the %95 of people dont care about the EU guy to say something

HYNDBURN SURE PROVED THAT WRONG LAST NIGHT

WELL DONE HYNDBURN

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Accyman.....Thank you.
I wish I had thought that one up!

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After 50 years of shift work it was easy to fall back into the habit, I stayed up.

YYYYIIIIIPPPPEEEE !!!!!!!!

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I awoke with some trepidation this morning, feeling that with the possibility of illegal actions by Leave I would find that the Remain had won.
Made my coffee, switched on the TV and LT, and then nearly spilt my coffee.
Well done to all of you that had the sense to vote Leave - a massive majority for Hyndburn, we could have had one more vote if our representative had followed his heart rather than putting his standing in his party before all else. Of course I know nothing being one of the 95%.
INDEPENDENCE DAY is here, glad that I have been a part of it.

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If i die today, I will die Happy.:alright:

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Looking forward now to "Krystal Nacht" or "The Night of the Long Knives". Goodbye DC, GO & JC.

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Virtually DOUBLE the votes cast in Hyndburn were LEAVE.wonder what % that is.:D

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While we can rejoice that we have voted to cut the wires that bind us to the EU, it is not all done and dusted yet. This may not be the way the EU woud have it...we might get sent back to do it again and come up with the right answer.
Worse still our own Parliament may decide to over-ride our views.

There is no denying that there will be some uncertainty in the months ahead and there is no doubt that there will be a price to pay......how can you put a price on democracy and forging your own destiny?
Already there are rumblings among other dissatisfied EU members.
Maybe now Briussels will take notice.

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Whilst i am over the moon with this,its a very sad day for the Labour Party in my view, They have alienated many of their voters by their arrogant stance, and sadly they may not recover from not listening to the voters for many years, hope i am wrong, but somehow i doubt it.

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It is a sad day for politics in general Cashy...there are not many of them who have acted with any dignity......and it just shows how far removed they are from the people that they are supposed to represent.
David Cameron did not negotiate anything at all like a deeal for the UK....and he failed to recognise the feeling in the country.

We have been lied to, told scary stories and fed garbage......nothing new in that. it is the political stock in trade.

Yes, there are going to be some difficult times ahead(and there are going to be those who blame us for voting to quit - but it is THEY who have talked the UK down)......but we must not waiver from the goal of setting the UK straight again.
We have to have confidence that we can do it.....we have to believe.

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Cameron has resigned, nothings changed odders.:rolleyes:

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It really was the only thing he could do.
He and his cronies are totally out of touch.....and it leaves the mess to be cleared up by someone else.
I think he was not the man to deal with the complex business of leaving the EU..... I cannot think of any politician who is up to this task.

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the people of XXX have voted hahahahahahahahaha

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doe's this mean we will be allowed to be English now

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Oh i doubt that very much, too many complete knobheads in charge. imho.

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DC couldn't wait - he will leave as PM before the Tory Conference, let us hope that quite a few more choose to fall on their swords before the boot is put in up to the 12th lace hole.

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You're spot on, Cashy.
Corbyn has blown his chance to show how close he holds to his principles. As soon as he got in with the 'protected' elite, he bottled it.
Currently listening to Mandelson wittering on the BBC (there's a nauseous combination) about the Labour Party - he is the personification of what went wrong with that Party.

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A late mate of mine used to say that a woman is as old as she feels, but a man is as old as the woman he feels,:)

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Funny the medias not mentioned T.Blair"? he was only saying,one day later he would want to be president of Europe, Well that aint gonna happen now for the tosspot.:D

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Although I have always thought of him as a millionairs lacky, there is no doubt that he is a proud Englishman at heart,his speech outside No 10 this morning was of a staunch, sincere, proud man who loves his country, you could hear the croak in his voice just prior to leading his wife back into No 10 with a gesture of affection rarely seen from a politician

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This all shows that you cannot trust polls...or politicians.
Seize the day and put no trust in the future, it is built on shifting sands.

I am listening to people (experts?)who are predicting doom and gloom....this is not a it productive. It is talking down the UK. Not a good thing.
The people have spoken and we now have to roll up our sleeves and get down to work.

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A poor but not completely inaccurate analagy is that this is like buying a new house where you have to pay the lawyers, the movers and work out a new morgage, buy a few new bits and chuck out a few old bits. In other words things will settle down but only after a bit of hard work and dislocation.

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No it is not a poor analogy, it reflects accurately that this is just the start of a lot of hard work.
We need to do that with the idea that we can make the place a home that is comfortable for our family.

This vote, while it is being seen in some quarters as negative,(by those who have much to lose) could be the catalyst that kick starts the EU into meaningful reform.
For it surely does need to be overhauled, root and branch.
It needs transparency, it needs democracy, it does not need the jingoistic, threat making politicians like Jean Claude Junker and others like him.
I think the threats about what would happen to us if we voted leave, have pushed many to decide that leaving was the only option.

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I didn't vote. I am most likely going to get flack for admitting so. Not that(like odders) i thought it a waste of time, a proverbial blowing smoke up the ass of the public and that nothing will change either way etc..... I ain't no politician and the whole thing is a bit complicated for me to make a sensible and intelligent decision on something that effects so many people.



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Was swaying towards remain only because of the workers rights that we might lose now. For me it can't get any worse than it already is.

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If you cannot put any trust in the future Marge, then what can you put your trust in

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You cannot put your trust in the future, because there are no guarantees...other than death and taxes.
I travel hopefully. I am a pragmatist(or at least I think I am). I deal with situations by rolling up my sleeves and doing what needs to be done....whether that is flower arranging(good stuff) or shovelling fisons(the not so good stuff).
My maxim is just get on and do it!

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Nope, not from me. I just think that if you don't understand something then you have two choices....educate yourself(Rob,you strike me as being a clever individual...and I mean that with respect) or, do what you did and abstain.

I spent time reading, not just the media, but diverse articles....and if I came up against something that baffled me I looked it up on a variety of sites.
I did not swallow all of the guff that was being fed to me.....and I looked into the backgrounds of those who were telling us we should stay....many of those had links to the EU....so they had a vested interest.
For me it was about democracy.
Those in Brussels making the rules are not elected by us, cannot be removed by us.....why do we need a parliament if our goverment are not making laws?

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Seems to me Camerons resigned cos the P.M.s job is gonna be much harder now, he can't sit on his arse n say can't do sod all, cos of this ruling from Brussels.:D:D:D:D

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That is my feeling too....and I mentioned it in post 762.....he is leaving a mess to be cleaned up by whoever takes over from him....not an enviable job.....and I cannot think of a current serving politician that has the brains and the cojones to complete the task.

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true i'm that delighted i never noticed,is my excuse.:D

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Oh...not getting at you Cashy...just telling you that great minds and all that...:D:D:D

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I know that Margaret.;)

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thought you might:)

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The useless E.U. are as much to blame as anyone for our exit. If they had given Cameron summat to come back with,Remain would probably have walked it, in my view.

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The threats of how we would be treated (in any event)didn't help the remain cause either.

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I have said all along the worst thing yeh can do to the British is threaten em.;)

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It seems 66% of the Hyndburn voters were for "LEAVE" the second highest % i have seen, so how the hell is that what Graham Jones says hes spoken too?:confused:

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You would think the Krauts would have figured that out by now.:rolleyes:

One of the saner and more perceptive comments on the result comes from the Deputy PM of Turkey: "The European Union's disintegration has started ... Britain was the first to jump ship." But the disintegration probably started earlier ... lots of European History students will generate endless PhD theses on pinpointing when it all began.

And are there really folks out there who believe that a political union of European states is actually possible? Because that is where it was all heading.

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That would be 95%;)

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Wish I'd said that Eric :D

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at least we now know that when we vote a MP out they cant run off to EU parliament and ride the gravy train

i wonder how many MPs plans for an easy life have just been nuked lol

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there was something in the region of a 66% turnout too....not so dusty....the other 95% were too numb to vote(sorry Mr Suthers...i had to get the 95% in somewhere...I have been trying all day)

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what we need now is a labour MP that believes in the UK

labour need to put forward a new candidate that supports the UK outside of Europe at the next election

hell put a tory candidate up that believes in us and i will vote for them over anyone who dosnt any time

my labour allegiance is out the window i want people in charge who believe in the UK and i dont care what flag they fly as long as they believe in and put the UK first

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Along with the wishes of his constituents, in particular the 95% that know nothing.

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I don't believe it....there is an online petition calling for a second referendum as the result of this one was so close.
It has reached 119,000 signatories already so the government has to consider debating it.
I could not stand another campaign like the last one.

They are saying that us old folk have made the decisions for the younger generation.....many of whom did not get off their butt cheeks to go and vote.
Maybe we have done them a favour. We have to wait and see. There are still a lot of myths guesses and doomery out there.....none of it helpful.

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Yup....and doesn't that just evidence that the young are not able to understand the meaning of democracy, let alone the complexities of the EU

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Yes it does.

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The comment that there are no guarantee's other than death and taxes is an old saying but to say that "I deal with situations by rolling my sleeves up and doing what needs to be done", is only applicable to your own situation, as an ex nurse/senior sister of the N.H.S. you must have come across many people who think that their only hope is that there is something better in the future, it happened to me neary fifty years ago, when after a motor cycle accident that left me in a coma at Accrington Victoria Hospiital,; (I had been married for less than 12 months at the time)

When I finally awoke, my new wife and Sister Heys of M.M.4 drummed it into me to believe in the future, three children later and in March next year after fifty years of marraige, their advice has come to be good advice.

Every one should believe that there is a future, (and I am not talking religion here.) As ever stay happy, Your's, Taddy.

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I like your story Taddy and I am really glad that things turned out in the way that they did.
When I say you cannot trust the future.....what I mean is that the future is there, you can have hopes for it, but you cannot guarantee anything that is in the future because the future is fluid, changeable.
I have faith in my ability to cope.....and that is where I place my trust.....I also trust that fate has me where it wants me to be.
I have hope for the future, but that is not the same as trust.

And I think I remember Sister Heys......she was very wise.
I am sure that when faced with patients who have life changing illnesses I have probably used similar maxims.....it is what you do to try and give comfort....you extend hope.