A Teddy Bear Called ............... - Page 4

Tealeaf · 28-11-2007, 17:04

I have no sympathy for this woman whatsoever. She knew the risks when she went to that country and now she pays the price. Meanwhile, time and money is spent by the British Taxpayer in trying to get her off the hook. The simple fact is that Sudan is a madhouse and the only way you can deal with these people is to go in with a show of force. Kitchener did it in 1898 and seriously kicked some arse; there were no problems there whatsoever while it remained a British Protectorate. No sooner did we leave - and as in the rest of Africa - the place went to the dogs.

Talking about dogs - who was it on here who told me of someone in Church who had a dog called ASBO?

Busman747 · 28-11-2007, 17:35

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Originally Posted by katex

Mmmm . have a little stuffed toy somewhere in the house .. think I will christen him Jesus !! Can I expect the Christian mafia at my door in the morning ..

Oh dear, sorry to tell you Katex but if you name your stuffed toy "Jesus" you could well suffer the same fate as that poor teacher in the Sudan

Mohammed is not the only prophet revered by Muslims, here is a list of the 25 that are mentioned in the Qur'an.....................

Adam
• Idris (Enoch)
• Nuh (Noah)
• Hud
• Saleh
• Ibrahim (Abraham)
• Isma'il (Ishmael)
• Ishaq (Isaac)
• Lut (Lot)
• Ya'qub (Jacob)
• Yousef (Joseph)
• Shu'aib
• Ayyub (Job)
• Musa (Moses)
• Harun (Aaron)
• Dhu'l-kifl (Ezekiel)
• Dawud (David)
• Sulaiman (Solomon)
• Ilias (Elias)
• Al-Yasa (Elisha)
• Yunus (Jonah)
• Zakariyya (Zechariah)
• Yahya (John)
• 'Isa (Jesus)

• Muhammad

..................and yes, it IS the same Jesus Christ born to Mary

WillowTheWhisp · 28-11-2007, 19:42

That's because they revere him as a prophet but think Christians are wrong to believe he was the son of God or in any way divine.

cashman · 28-11-2007, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Eric

What places? You wouldn't be talking about the US would you

not really Eric, been a couple of times meself,but sure as hell wouldn't go to some like SUDAN.

i'm with T. 100% on this.

West Ender · 28-11-2007, 19:55

I wonder, apropos the name Mohammed, about the ones who had the name before the prophet was born. Unless the name was invented just for him, which I doubt, I don't see how Muslims can claim exclusivity on its use.

WillowTheWhisp · 28-11-2007, 20:01

I've wondered that too.

Eric · 28-11-2007, 20:11

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Originally Posted by cashman

not really Eric, been a couple of times meself,but sure as hell wouldn't go to some like SUDAN.

i'm with T. 100% on this.

Me neither. The Sudan is right up there on my list of places not to visit, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti, and Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan.

Eric · 28-11-2007, 20:14

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I've wondered that too.

I wouldn't let it bother you .... rational thinking and sane logic are not big with the Islamic extremists ... or extremists of any stripe come to think of it, the Aryan Nations folks in the wackier parts of the States for eg.

West Ender · 28-11-2007, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Eric

I wouldn't let it bother you .... the Aryan Nations folks in the wackier parts of the States for eg.

I take it Adolph is a sacred name there then?

grannyclaret · 28-11-2007, 20:23

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Originally Posted by cashman

where ya got that info granny? just watched sky news, n shes been charged

I know,,But it WAS on tele this morning .maybe i heard it wrong...

Eric · 28-11-2007, 21:29

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Originally Posted by West Ender

I take it Adolph is a sacred name there then?

Indeed it is; ever hear of Adolph Coors, founder of a great American institution: Coors Lite, really crappy beer

Eric · 28-11-2007, 21:36

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Originally Posted by cashman

not really Eric, been a couple of times meself,but sure as hell wouldn't go to some like SUDAN.

i'm with T. 100% on this.

Just noticed the last part of your post. And I would be 100% against. Gunboat diplomacy or "civilization" at bayonet point never really worked in the long run. Kitchener might have had it all his own way at Omdurman (I do believe that Churchill rode in that last great cavalry charge) but Gordon was not so lucky. The problem with Empire is that at some point the Imperial power has to leave, and then all hell breaks loose in the power vacuum. It happened in England after the great Sack of Rome and the departure of the Legions. You can't just say: "Now you are free, have a nice life."

cashman · 29-11-2007, 11:48

what really razzes me off is whilst this foolish woman can be gaoled,flogged,etc, for a child naming a teddy, religious fanatics can preach jihad on our streets for years without retribution, theres summat sadly wrong with us for letting things like this happen, the government/ public should get off the pot and sort this crazy imbalance out P.D.Q. end of rant.

BERNADETTE · 29-11-2007, 12:59

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Originally Posted by cashman

what really razzes me off is whilst this foolish woman can be gaoled,flogged,etc, for a child naming a teddy, religious fanatics can preach jihad on our streets for years without retribution, theres summat sadly wrong with us for letting things like this happen, the government/ public should get off the pot and sort this crazy imbalance out P.D.Q. end of rant.

You are quite right it is getting out of hand, time we let our feelings known if we don't we'll be sorry!!!

cashman · 29-11-2007, 13:52

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

You are quite right it is getting out of hand, time we let our feelings known if we don't we'll be sorry!!!

whats come out now, a secretary at the school (after complaints from SOME parents) made the allegation, another good reason why brits should keep the hell away from these countries, and this SOFT government should be directing them to do so. its about time everyone stopped pussyfooting about n said BALLS to the PC/DOOGOODER brigade.