alternative vote - Page 5

cmonstanley · 10-04-2011, 20:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Well to be honest JCB until this term (starting last May) I have very rarely seen a councillor from ANY party around the estate where I live and we have had councillors from both parties who actually live on the estate, but never saw them up and about. As I said earlier I have seen the Tory councillor knocking about on numerous occasions and not during the day, but early evenings and weekends

seen one round here yep the scottish christian party Contact Scottish Christian Party theyve even got all their billboards in the town centre..

jaysay · 11-04-2011, 09:14

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

seen one round here yep the scottish christian party Contact Scottish Christian Party theyve even got all their billboards in the town centre..

God botherers knock on doors 52 weeks to year, don't forget to cancel them when you go on holiday

JCB · 11-04-2011, 17:47

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Originally Posted by jaysay

God botherers knock on doors 52 weeks to year, don't forget to cancel them when you go on holiday

Jehovah's Witnesses don't take any part in elections , Jaysay .

jaysay · 11-04-2011, 18:16

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Originally Posted by JCB

Jehovah's Witnesses don't take any part in elections , Jaysay .

They're not the only God botherers though JCB

kestrelx · 21-04-2011, 16:54

The AV system is the system that is used in the London Mayor Elections and what got Tory Boris Johnson in as Mayor in 2008.

Baically it doesn't matter who gets in if you look at the way it works they all fall down at the end and people end up hating them, whoever it is.

I think I'll probably vote for AV then you can make strategic votes.

Mancie · 22-04-2011, 18:45

The more I look into this AV system the less I like it.
Take the 3 main parties.. if your preference is the tory candidate then your second is likley to be the lib-dem rather than labour.. I think the same goes for most labour voters..second choice lib-dem (or the monster looney bisciut party)... so little wonder the lib-dems are all for this system.. it could win them seats just by coming second!

garinda · 22-04-2011, 20:22

Even though most Labour politicans are against the introduction of AV, it's the method they use, when voting for their party leader.

I would vote for Proportional Representation, but not for this tin-pot half-way house.

Mancie · 22-04-2011, 20:49

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Originally Posted by garinda

Even though most Labour politicans are against the introduction of AV, it's the method they use, when voting for their party leader.

True..and I can see why the tories and labour don't like the idea of AV.. it would probably mean less seats for both of those parties.. but I won't be voting for something that, to be honest I don't fully understand.

Barrie Yates · 22-04-2011, 23:08

If AV is so good why are there only 3 (?) countries that use it - only Australia. Fiji and I think one other, use it and Fiji are dropping it very soon and i think Australia are considering dropping it.
Surely, if it is better than first past the post then more countries would use it.
Of course the Lib-Dems want it as it is their only chance of getting more seats. The majority of votes that they get are only protest votes against the Tory and Labour parties/personalities.
They must pray at every election for a hung parliament so that they can become King Makers.

cashman · 22-04-2011, 23:12

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

If AV is so good why are there only 3 (?) countries that use it - only Australia. Fiji and I think one other, use it and Fiji are dropping it very soon and i think Australia are considering dropping it.
Surely, if it is better than first past the post then more countries would use it.
Of course the Lib-Dems want it as it is their only chance of getting more seats. The majority of votes that they get are only protest votes against the Tory and Labour parties/personalities.
They must pray at every election for a hung parliament so that they can become King Makers.

You summed the useless ******* up very well yon Barrie.

jaysay · 23-04-2011, 08:47

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

If AV is so good why are there only 3 (?) countries that use it - only Australia. Fiji and I think one other, use it and Fiji are dropping it very soon and i think Australia are considering dropping it.
Surely, if it is better than first past the post then more countries would use it.
Of course the Lib-Dems want it as it is their only chance of getting more seats. The majority of votes that they get are only protest votes against the Tory and Labour parties/personalities.
They must pray at every election for a hung parliament so that they can become King Makers.

Eloquently put sir

cashman · 23-04-2011, 09:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Eloquently put sir

thats what i said.

jaysay · 23-04-2011, 09:30

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Originally Posted by cashman

thats what i said.

Ya but not as eloquently cashy

Benipete · 23-04-2011, 10:23

Can I vote no as my first choice and yes as my second?

kestrelx · 23-04-2011, 15:32

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Originally Posted by Mancie

True..and I can see why the tories and labour don't like the idea of AV.. it would probably mean less seats for both of those parties.. but I won't be voting for something that, to be honest I don't fully understand.

Those who say that the 1st past the post system will avoid confusion and watered down government, seem to have forgot we have a coalition now because the 1st past the post system hasn't worked at the 2010 election - thus we have this coalition.

With AV; MP's will have to work harder to keep their seat - I am personally sick of MP's who have seats for life off less than 50% of the consituency vote.

What is AV? | Yes to fairer votes - Yes to AV - Alternative Vote

If they spent the same amount of time on TV, explaining how the AV works rather than promoting that Royal Wedding - this would be a far better country!

AV will mean that politicians and politics is fairer.