are you for or against ? - Page 4

cashman · 23-08-2013, 05:50

BBC News - Professor Peter Styles explains how sinkholes happen i can do that.

Gordon Booth · 23-08-2013, 13:12

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Can you imagine if the town of Accrington was in the same position of hundreds out towns across America where the people have had fresh running tap water for years, they start fracking near by and now the government is delivering water to the population to drink and cook with because the tap water is no longer safe.

Until they can ensure fracking is relatively safe

Can you name just ONE of these hundreds of towns who now have to live on water delivered by the American Government due to fracking?
I thought not.

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

well the americans are blaming this on fracking BBC News - Huge sinkhole swallows tree in US state of Louisiana

No they're not! There's no mention of fracking on that video either.It's caused by the soft rocks underneath dissolving away.
No one has ever claimed sink holes are caused by fracking.

cashman · 23-08-2013, 13:26

Cmons got a sinkhole i reckon.

Margaret Pilkington · 23-08-2013, 15:10

I'm going to have to go to Specsavers and get my glasses changed........I read that as
C'mons got a stinkhole, I reckon....it made me smile anyway.

GJWatson · 23-08-2013, 15:13

they must be fracking idiots to carry this on without knowing all the facts?

Less · 23-08-2013, 15:34

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Originally Posted by GJWatson

they must be fracking idiots to carry this on without knowing all the facts?

So, may I ask you to put them before us?

jaysay · 23-08-2013, 17:19

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Originally Posted by cashman

Cmons got a sinkhole i reckon.

Ya cashy and that would be between the ears

DAV007 · 23-08-2013, 20:56

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Can you name just ONE of these hundreds of towns who now have to live on water delivered by the American Government due to fracking?
I thought not.

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Give me a chance and I will give you some examples

Fracking-Harmed Pennsylvania Residents Demand Reopening of EPA Poisoned Water Investigations

EPA Begins Water Delivery to Fracking Contaminated Town - Organic Connections

there is more if you want them.

closer to home...

Water companies warn of the dangers of fracking

all it takes is a quick google search

DAV007 · 23-08-2013, 21:01

and locally...

Ribble Estuary Against Fracking - News

cashman · 23-08-2013, 21:03

If the water companies are interested, then theres a fair chance it will be done correctly in my view, nowt like a vested interest to ensure it is.

Guinness · 23-08-2013, 21:42

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Give me a chance and I will give you some examples

Fracking-Harmed Pennsylvania Residents Demand Reopening of EPA Poisoned Water Investigations

EPA Begins Water Delivery to Fracking Contaminated Town - Organic Connections

there is more if you want them.

closer to home...

Water companies warn of the dangers of fracking

all it takes is a quick google search

Yep....Google is your friend

Since your first two links are about the same issue, my first two debunk it

Pennsylvania Fracking Study Shows Chemicals Did Not Contaminate Water

Landmark Federal Study: No Indication Fracking Contaminates Drinking Water | TheBlaze.com

Then, as you say..closer to home....

BBC News - Fracking: Water concerns persist?

Fracks and figures: the big questions about fracking | Environment | The Guardian

I'm guessing that when man first decided to dig underground for raw materials, that there were doom merchants who said that the ground would fall in and swallow whole villages and settlements.

Looking at the science it would seem it's ok as long as it's done carefully, therefore its about regulating it properly. Unfortunately I wouldn't trust a single MP in Westminster to think it through and put in a regulating body with teeth.

DAV007 · 23-08-2013, 22:56

Guinness,
I agree.

Im not a environmentalist, Im a supporter of nuclear power.
But nuclear power on the whole is regulated and governed to a high standard.

In the USA and potentially in Britain, the same regulation is not in place for fracking.

The situation in the USA is clear in my opinion - there is no problems with the local water supply, then the fracking begins and water supply becomes dangerous.
And its not only the water supply which becomes dangerous.

I understand why the government want it - and easy, quick financial economic hit which will create jobs.

But I doubt any of the political parties in Westminster will build regulation in the interest of the general public.
For a start, they will so what they did with the tv license, tax evasions laws, utilities, railways, etc - and use the industry's own advisors funded by the interest groups to advise on the regulation.
i have never seen turkeys voting for Christmas.

cmonstanley · 15-02-2014, 11:25

so if the wet weather does this what about fracking

Homes Evacuated As 20ft Deep Sinkhole Appears

Neil · 15-02-2014, 15:41

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

so if the wet weather does this what about fracking

Homes Evacuated As 20ft Deep Sinkhole Appears

Maybe all those fractures will help with land drainage and reduce future flooding

Obviously that sink hole has nothing to do with fracking. Do you have proof that fracking causes sink holes?

Retlaw · 15-02-2014, 16:37

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

so if the wet weather does this what about fracking

Homes Evacuated As 20ft Deep Sinkhole Appears

So what about all the old gallery's where coal has been removed, if your theory is correct, large parts of Lancashire are going to drop 6 ft when the old pit props finish rotting away. Are you going to emigrate.