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24-10-2007, 08:33
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10 weeks to CHRISTMAS!!!!
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Re: Bbc3
so this too, how could a father do that to his kids...his own flesh and blood..........sick if you ask me, hope the scum bag suffers in jail!!
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24-10-2007, 09:29
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Re: Bbc3
i watched it too, he killed his kids before he killed his wife, he should of been hanged
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24-10-2007, 13:22
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Re: Bbc3
I dont think I'll be able to bear watching it. I dont think it should be thought of as an honour killing either. Honour killings are when they've done something to shame the family, but Riaz' mum and sisters never did anything shameful.

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24-10-2007, 15:32
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Re: Bbc3
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Originally Posted by Neil
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Thanks, terrible event. Even worse, it seems to happen a lot. And not only with muslims and cultures which don't have the more "liberal" western values. It is shocking how many women, and often their children too, are killed by disaffected partners and, often, ex-partners.
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24-10-2007, 15:57
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Re: Bbc3
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so this too, how could a father do that to his kids...his own flesh and blood
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He even took them to Blackpool that afternoon, let them make sand castles and then on to the pleasure beach, took them home waited whilst they slept and then caved their heads in with a rounders bat. This man should not be allowed to live, why should tax payers keep him in jail all his life.
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24-10-2007, 17:23
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Re: Bbc3
I don't see how these can be called "honor" killings; it is certainly a distortion of "honor" to link it to macho male insecurity. It is time to let immigrants know that altho they are welcome, there are certain aspects of thier culture which are not. There are enough problems with insecure boyfriends and husbands without adding more that are culturally sanctioned, or at least tolerated.
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24-10-2007, 20:05
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Re: Bbc3
I am watching it now.
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24-10-2007, 21:15
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Re: Bbc3
Most of the programme was about the Riaz family. It made very sad viewing. 
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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs, cackling and telling me
'You'll be next.' They stopped when I started doing the same to them at funerals.
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24-10-2007, 21:16
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Re: Bbc3
Very sad and it is going on all over the place.
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24-10-2007, 22:22
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Re: Bbc3
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Originally Posted by Eric
I don't see how these can be called "honor" killings; it is certainly a distortion of "honor" to link it to macho male insecurity. It is time to let immigrants know that altho they are welcome, there are certain aspects of thier culture which are not. There are enough problems with insecure boyfriends and husbands without adding more that are culturally sanctioned, or at least tolerated.
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Why would you refer to immigrants in particular? Born and bred british citizens can do exactly the same thing, and they do, it happens with white british families as well, but the reason they aren't called honor killings is because they typically lack the religious factor, yet often its not the religious factor at all makes these men do these things, they are just cowards.
Adams poor excuse for a father might have tried to bully his family with his religious believes but underneath he was the shame on the family, drinking alcohol and claiming to be such a righteous muslim. He didn't deserve his loving family, and he killed them because he was a coward, nothing to do with honor.
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24-10-2007, 22:28
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Re: Bbc3
And how many of the cases so far have not been immigrants? I have been watching it and as you say Adam's "father" was a coward who murdered six people or as good as!!!
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24-10-2007, 22:41
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Re: Bbc3
I'm struggling to think why honour killings might be called such due to some typically religious factor.
Honourable man = religious man ?
Religious man = honourable man?
Plain murder in my book.
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24-10-2007, 23:22
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