Benefits for the poor are spent on drugs and gambling

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

"In a system of free trade and free markets poor countries - and poor people - are not poor because others are rich. Indeed, if others become less rich the poor in all probability would become still poorer." Ok, we all know who this is, and many are anxiously awaiting her death, hopefully after a long painful illness I understand the ideology; but can some tory explain what is actually means.

Maybe it can't be explained because its a load of crap

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Maybe it can't be explained because its a load of crap

I believe that is a Maggie T quote
(the worm has turned)

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I believe that is a Maggie T quote
(the worm has turned)

Its marvellous taking things out of context instead of looking at the big picture,

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Maybe it can't be explained because its a load of crap

I can certainly agree with this ... but what, exactly or close to it, does it mean?

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Its marvellous taking things out of context instead of looking at the big picture,

Once we remove the cliches, we are left with "Its marvelous ... instead of ..." Not much to comment on, is there?

[MargaretR]

I think she was spouting the 'trickle down' theory.
It's just a theory. It doesn't work - the money doesn't 'trickle down' it trickles out - offshore

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/...#axzz1fyMKFQHJ

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

I can certainly agree with this ... but what, exactly or close to it, does it mean?

Quite simple really if the money supply is stifled then its felt right through society, from the wealthy down to the poor and to wish death and suffering on anybody shows me why I could never have been a socialist, I just could mix with that ethos one little bit

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Quite simple really if the money supply is stifled then its felt right through society, from the wealthy down to the poor and to wish death and suffering on anybody shows me why I could never have been a socialist, I just could mix with that ethos one little bit

Oh, so what you are saying is that tory economic policy is, to use your own words: "a load of crap." Mmmm .... I think I can agree with this 100%

[Less]

Originally Posted by jaysay

right through society, from the wealthy down to the poor

So, there we have it in a nutshell, Tory attitude, 'from the wealthy down to the poor'.

As if, not only should the poor know that their place in the great plan of things, but they should tug their forelocks for being allowed to suffer a position below the wealthy.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

Oh, so what you are saying is that tory economic policy is, to use your own words: "a load of crap." Mmmm .... I think I can agree with this 100%

And pray tell me the Labour alternative, always remembering that you don't have to suffer all the crap which they leave behind every time they make their usual dogs breakfast of running our country, Mancie keeps bleeding Same old Tory's, well they always follow same old Labour only it gets worse every time they take power because they are quite obviously not up to the job, never have been never will be

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Less

So, there we have it in a nutshell, Tory attitude, 'from the wealthy down to the poor'.

As if, not only should the poor know that their place in the great plan of things, but they should tug their forelocks for being allowed to suffer a position below the wealthy.

I've been a Tory all my adult life, I'm not rich, but maybe I have never suffered from that the old downfall of envey, I don't give a monkeys what joe blogs has got, don't bother me, but it sure as hell bothers a lot of other people, i just feel sorry for them

[Less]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I've been a Tory all my adult life, I'm not rich, but maybe I have never suffered from that the old downfall of envey,

I am happy to say that envy is something I don't suffer from either.

May I just say I have always admired the fact that you almost have the mental prowess of the mayor of London, tell me though, have you ever beaten him in a game of Wiff-Waff?

[garinda]

What's tax avoidance to do with welfare benefits?

Two different thing.

Though if it is being mentioned, it was hardly something the last government bothered to tackle.

They were much too busy accepting massive donations from the mega rich, who benefited from the glaring loopholes in the system.

That's after they'd made Britain's tax system so attractive to the super rich, that every dodgy oligarch was just queueing up to move here, and take advantage of it.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Nothing at all, but I think it was thrown in to highlight the inequalites of life....which have been there since time immemorial........now this isn't going to change unless some government comes in makes some new rules and laws about the distribution of wealth.

Many of these wealthy people didn't start life rich(though I know that some did)their wealth was attained by hard work, perseverance and application.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Nothing at all, but I think it was thrown in to highlight the inequalities of life....which have been there since time immemorial........now this isn't going to change unless some government comes in makes some new rules and laws about the distribution of wealth.

Many of these wealthy people didn't start life rich(though I know that some did)their wealth was attained by hard work, perseverance and application.

Exactly Margaret, Mancie and co are very select in that department in their little world if you've got of your arse and grafted and made yourself a pot of money your a nasty Tory, never realised Sir Alec Ferguson had become an honoury member of of the Tory Party though, that one musthave passed be by