brown just go. - Page 3

Wynonie Harris · 07-07-2009, 10:15

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I think that it's better to invest more money into the NHS and let it work reasonably well ...rather that cut funds and let it fall to ruin as it did in the 80's.

Investing money into the NHS is only a good thing if it's spent wisely - ie, as much of it on front line services as possible. The government is squandering a large part of the money that goes into the NHS at the moment on unnecessary layers of management and unworkable IT systems. Still, your blinkers will never let you see that, will they?

jaysay · 07-07-2009, 10:53

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Investing money into the NHS is only a good thing if it's spent wisely - ie, as much of it on front line services as possible. The government is squandering a large part of the money that goes into the NHS at the moment on unnecessary layers of management and unworkable IT systems. Still, your blinkers will never let you see that, will they?

I gave up with Mancie a long time ago, I just nod and say whatever now Wynonie

entwisi · 07-07-2009, 11:52

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Originally Posted by Mancie

and you did all that in the last ten years under a Labour Government entwisi?...think about it.

I'd say in spite of them as they have done nothing to assist me in that time. its is I who have actively sought out the right skills and opportunities to get where I am. Its me that has put the effort into making the most of these opportunities.

I run environmentally friendly cars as my job is > 50 miles from home, do I get the tax break they give new ones... nope

I am constantly retraining myself on latest skills, any tax breaks? nope

I look after my Mum who needs care, she is on the list for sheltered accomodation, current waiting list unending, due to lack of goverment support to provide the right amount of social housing. its over 20 years ago that it was noted we were becoming an 'older' population but nothing done to provide for this.

accyman · 07-07-2009, 12:02

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Originally Posted by entwisi

I'd say in spite of them as they have done nothing to assist me in that time. its is I who have actively sought out the right skills and opportunities to get where I am. Its me that has put the effort into making the most of these opportunities.

I run environmentally friendly cars as my job is > 50 miles from home, do I get the tax break they give new ones... nope

I am constantly retraining myself on latest skills, any tax breaks? nope

I look after my Mum who needs care, she is on the list for sheltered accomodation, current waiting list unending, due to lack of goverment support to provide the right amount of social housing. its over 20 years ago that it was noted we were becoming an 'older' population but nothing done to provide for this.

just in case you dont already have one here you go

sorry but couldnt afford a trumpet for you to blow

entwisi · 07-07-2009, 12:08

I did all my trumpet blowing in the BB brass band thanks mate.....

I was never into BP either so you can keep your badge in exchange for my name back on FB

andrewb · 07-07-2009, 14:39

National Statistics Online

Scary.

cashman · 07-07-2009, 14:59

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Originally Posted by andrewb

National Statistics Online

Scary.

well get rid of yer mirrors.

accyman · 07-07-2009, 18:13

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Originally Posted by entwisi

I did all my trumpet blowing in the BB brass band thanks mate.....

I was never into BP either so you can keep your badge in exchange for my name back on FB

add me to msn and we can talk about it

[email protected]

Eric · 08-07-2009, 07:08

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Originally Posted by cashman

well get rid of yer mirrors.

One of our Prime Ministers, John Diefenbaker, once said that politicians use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post ... more for support than illumination.

Tealeaf · 08-07-2009, 08:30

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Originally Posted by Eric

One of our Prime Ministers, John Diefenbaker, once said that politicians use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post ... more for support than illumination.

Not in the UK....people like Gordon Brown use statistics like a dog uses a lamp post.

Mancie · 09-07-2009, 00:54

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Investing money into the NHS is only a good thing if it's spent wisely - ie, as much of it on front line services as possible. The government is squandering a large part of the money that goes into the NHS at the moment on unnecessary layers of management and unworkable IT systems. Still, your blinkers will never let you see that, will they?

I'm not stupid enough to think that eveything in the NHS is lovely and rosey...but I do not agree with any cuts to funding...when the Tories do start making the cuts it won't be in mamagement and I.T. systems ..it will start with cleaning staff etc and eventually in nurses...we've seen it all before, they will set up private monitoring "consultants" which cost millions...and you call me blinkered.. get yer head out the sand, these consultant agencies with be laughing all the way to the bank.

Mancie · 09-07-2009, 00:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I gave up with Mancie a long time ago, I just nod and say whatever now Wynonie

you've got some cheek...you are a life long Tory activist whose posts are 99% pro Tory..behave yerself Jaysay...you aint fooling anyone

Mancie · 09-07-2009, 01:01

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Not in the UK....people like Gordon Brown use statistics like a dog uses a lamp post.

.Tealeaf is the bloke that posted this earlier in this thread

Cuts? Lets start with the obvious shall we:

Get out the EU - Saving £30bn annually

Shut down the Dept. of Overseas Development - Savings £10bn

Let the Scots have independence - Saving £18bn

Give the Scots responsibility for their banks that got us into this mess - saving £200bn

Shut down the Quangos - saving £60bn

Sack half of all bureaucrats - whatever dept - saving £30bn

Sling out so called asylum seekers - saving £4bn

Sling out Brown, Darling and the other crooks - saving, priceless.

so you don't use statistics Tealeaf?

Mancie · 09-07-2009, 04:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I gave up with Mancie a long time ago, I just nod and say whatever now Wynonie

punish him for me Eroll..he's been a naughty boy!

Tealeaf · 09-07-2009, 07:14

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Originally Posted by Mancie

.Tealeaf is the bloke that posted this earlier in this thread

Cuts? Lets start with the obvious shall we:

Get out the EU - Saving £30bn annually
Sling out Brown, Darling and the other crooks - saving, priceless........

so you don't use statistics Tealeaf?

Statistics is the interpretation and presentation of data. The above are simple numbers. Although I am often tempted to use statistics on here to elaborate a case, I am also aware that would invariably marginalise those of limited intelligence such as Mancie.