crime and punishment

steeljack · 29-09-2008, 21:41

Maybe it's just a US thing , but does anyone else see a disparity in punishment for various crimes, seems to me people get a bigger sentance for thieving and financial crimes than for physical violence against another persons
anyone care to comment about the rights or wrongs of this

shakermaker · 29-09-2008, 21:46

This is the true Labour legacy here. Longer jail sentences for tax fraud than for rape and murder. It really is disgusting and reveals the priorities of the men at the top.

Benipete · 29-09-2008, 22:02

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Maybe it's just a US thing , but does anyone else see a disparity in punishment for various crimes, seems to me people get a bigger sentance for thieving and financial crimes than for physical violence against another persons
anyone care to comment about the rights or wrongs of this

Does this mean a lot of Bankers and Mortgage Brokers will be getting life sentences over there then?

steeljack · 29-09-2008, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Does this mean a lot of Bankers and Mortgage Brokers will be getting life sentences over there then?

If I was a Judge the would , but as usual they will walk away with their 'golden parachutes' , one guy who was hired earlier this month to head Washington Mutual , a bank which failed last week will walk away with a 16 milloin dollar 'severance package' for less than a months work ....disgusting

Royboy39 · 29-09-2008, 22:25

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

This is the true Labour legacy here. Longer jail sentences for tax fraud than for rape and murder. It really is disgusting and reveals the priorities of the men at the top.

Violent crime and crimes against the person are on the up and through lack of forsight by the government there is no room at the Inn to lock them up and many of them get away with a smacked wrist.
In order to keep the prosecution figures up the 'White Collar' fraudsters can be locked up in open prisons where there is room, these establishments can be extended with little extra cost.
Life should mean life and all violent crimes should carry the full tariff for the crime without remission.

Wynonie Harris · 29-09-2008, 22:41

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Life should mean life and all violent crimes should carry the full tariff for the crime without remission.

That's what I think, that's what you think, that's what I would estimate around 90% of the population think. Unfortunately our views aren't shared by the hierarchy of the Labour, Tory and Lib/Dem parties, the judiciary and other members of the ruling classes. So don't expect commonsense measures like this to be implemented anytime soon.

cashman · 29-09-2008, 22:49

common sense died years ago, R.I.P. commonsense.

Stanaccy · 29-09-2008, 22:53

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

This is the true Labour legacy here. Longer jail sentences for tax fraud than for rape and murder. It really is disgusting and reveals the priorities of the men at the top.

Actually I think you will find going back decades that crimes against the establishment are punished harsher than crimes against the person. I remember some horrendous sentencing in the eighties.

People are not as important as the banking or finance world to the judiciary.

Royboy39 · 29-09-2008, 22:58

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Originally Posted by Stanaccy

Actually I think you will find going back decades that crimes against the establishment are punished harsher than crimes against the person. I remember some horrendous sentencing in the eighties.

People are not as important as the banking or finance world to the judiciary.

I know this is thread wander but life is like that:
I was going to start a new thread but it seems sensible forum members are on here.
Do you think that the Banks are getting their comuppence for many years of mismanagement and lack of control?

cashman · 29-09-2008, 23:01

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Originally Posted by Stanaccy

Actually I think you will find going back decades that crimes against the establishment are punished harsher than crimes against the person. I remember some horrendous sentencing in the eighties.

People are not as important as the banking or finance world to the judiciary.

the "Great Train Robbers" got 30 yrs min in the 60s, cos it was government money, at that time average lifer was doing approx 16 yrs.

Wynonie Harris · 29-09-2008, 23:06

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Do you think that the Banks are getting their comuppence for many years of mismanagement and lack of control?

Can't see many of the fat cats who run these institutions and have caused these problems suffering very much. It'll be us lot who'll carry the can for their misdemeanors with job losses, falling pension funds and the rest.