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View Poll Results: Given half of those detained to 28 days were innocent, do you:
Oppose an increase to 42 days without charge 5 27.78%
Support an increase to 42 days without charge 13 72.22%
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:18   #91
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:21   #92
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I think thats one of the most sensible things that has been posted all night!
Wish i had thought of it sooner!
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:28   #93
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Quite clear that the majority of people on Accringtonweb couldn't care less about locking up innocents. All I can say is I hope it never happens to you or your families.
Hurrah!

Yes, the majority of us obviously care more about saving innocent lives, than we do about fourteen more days incarceration of suspected terrorists.

Now go and have a little lie down in this nice padded cell.

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Old 14-07-2008, 22:30   #94
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God I can't believe I'm having to argue these things just because people want to find any possible way to make my argument invalid.
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you started the whole thing but i am sory if the whole world dosnt agree with you , perhaps you should leave the country and go into politics somewhere more favourable to your liking

i hear iraq is missing a dictatorship
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:37   #95
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Isn’t one of the reasons why many people don’t want corporal punishment brought back because it is better to let nine potentially guilty go free than hang one innocent person.

So shouldn’t that principle apply to this issue? Or is it yet again a case of double standards depending which way the wind is blowing?
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:42   #96
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Isn’t one of the reasons why many people don’t want corporal punishment brought back because it is better to let nine potentially guilty go free than hang one innocent person.

So shouldn’t that principle apply to this issue? Or is it yet again a case of double standards depending which way the wind is blowing?
Perhaps you should write to David Davis.

That fighter for freedom and liberty also supports the return of the death penalty.

BBC NEWS | Politics | Tories' Davis backs death penalty


I wonder how he would try to compensate those innocents who might be hanged.

Rather makes a mockery of his worries about fourteen more days in jail for those poor innocents, who are suspected of terrorism.
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:46   #97
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Perhaps you should write to David Davis.

That fighter for freedom and liberty also supports the return of the death penalty.

BBC NEWS | Politics | Tories' Davis backs death penalty


I wonder how he would try to compensate those innocents who might be hanged.

Rather makes a mockery of his worries about fourteen more days in jail for those poor innocents, who are suspected of terrorism.
sorry mate have to spread it around.:ro fl38:
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:49   #98
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Isn’t one of the reasons why many people don’t want corporal punishment brought back because it is better to let nine potentially guilty go free than hang one innocent person.

So shouldn’t that principle apply to this issue? Or is it yet again a case of double standards depending which way the wind is blowing?

i would love to see the death penalty back infact i think having it back would improve things a great deal and with more advanced forensics it would be highly unlikely we got the wrong person

just think how many less murderers woudl be walking our streets today or how many children would have been saved from abuse if the pedophile had been executed and not relased to do it again

anyway thats another post waiting to happen but im strongly behind holding people untill all avenues have been explored

i dont have any worries about been held indefinatly because i hardly fit the profile of a terrorist nor do i hang around with people that would bring suspition of terrorist activity upon me
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:50   #99
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Wonder what your views are on the death penalty andrew?
Do you support davies on this too?
How stupid to be against an extra 12 days detention for terroists but support hangings!
At least if innocent people are locked up they can get on with their lives afterwards.
Theres no going back if you kill an innocent person.
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:54   #100
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Do you support davies on this too?
How stupid to be against an extra 12 days detention for terroists but support hangings!
Perhaps he's not that passionate about people's freedom after all.

Perhaps it was just one big ego trip....at the tax payer's expense.
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:57   #101
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Perhaps he's not that passionate about people's freedom after all.

Perhaps it was just one big ego trip....at the tax payer's expense.
Yeah how could he make such a fuss as to resign over the 42 day ruling then openly support the death penalty?
I agree wholeheartedly about the waste of taxpayers money too.
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Old 14-07-2008, 22:57   #102
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Wonder what your views are on the death penalty andrew?
Do you support davies on this too?
How stupid to be against an extra 12 days detention for terroists but support hangings!
At least if innocent people are locked up they can get on with their lives afterwards.
Theres no going back if you kill an innocent person.
No I don't agree with the death penalty.

Davis has made it perfectly clear that he would not pursue this in parliament and has never made a speech on it. All he has done is answer when the question is asked, to which he says under extreme circumstance where there is no doubt at all, he supports the death penalty.

I can see the difference though, he is defending freedoms of innocent people, not guilty people.
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Old 14-07-2008, 23:00   #103
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How can you be 100% sure somebody is guilty though?
It is possible that somebody could be sentenced to death and be innocent.
There is no going back then.
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Old 14-07-2008, 23:03   #104
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How can you be 100% sure somebody is guilty though?
It is possible that somebody could be sentenced to death and be innocent.
There is no going back then.
That's why I don't support it.
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Old 14-07-2008, 23:06   #105
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Yeah but you support somebody who does and have kicked up such a fuss about supporting him over the 42 day detention ruling.
Can't you see the hypocrisy?
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