Did Graham Jones do the right thing?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

The people of Hyndburn did vote for Graham, the person.......because he had a very good reputation for hard work and listening to the electorate of his ward. Of working for the people who put him where he is in politics

They did not vote for the Labour party manifesto....and Graham if you think they did, you are deluding yourself. The electorate was sick of the Labour party, their lying, double dealing tactics....which is why they were ousted from power.

I am pretty sure those who voted for him in the general election trusted his reputation to be carried over into the work he was planning to do at Westminster.
How very disappointed they must be to see their views and opinions disregarded in a cavalier fashion.

How sad they must be to realise that we have as our representative in Westminster, someone who is no different from the lot that were thrown out, as being unfit for purpose.

I did.

I voted for Graham Jones, the man.

People were so sick of the last Labour government, as all the pre-election polls showed. I thought our seat was ripe for anyone to come along and win it.

I pursuaded friends and family members, disillusioned Labour voters, to vote for him.

On the same day, for the only time in my life, I voted Conservative, knowing in my ward Cllr. Brtitcliffe's return is already guaranteed.

I did that so I could come on here on election day, and perhaps encourage people to vote for the person, not the party, as I said I'd done, in the hope Graham Jones would become our new M.P., and he'd do us proud.

Putting my cross next to a Conservative candidate's name, I half expected to be struck down with a bolt of lightning.

No way did I expect anything as horrific as what actually has happened.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

I did.

I voted for Graham Jones, the man.

People were so sick of the last Labour government, as all the pre-election polls showed. I thought our seat was ripe for anyone to come along and win it.

I pursuaded friends and family members, disillusioned Labour voters, to vote for him.

On the same day, for the only time in my life, I voted Conservative, knowing in my ward Cllr. Brtitcliffe's return is already guaranteed.

I did that so I could come on here on election day, and perhaps encourage people to vote for the person, not the party, as I said I'd done, in the hope Graham Jones would become our new M.P., and he'd do us proud.

Putting my cross next to a Conservative candidate's name, I half expected to be struck down with a bolt of lightning.

No way did I expect anything as horrific as what actually has happened.

Love him or hate him, PB he might not have been the flavour of the month as leader, but he has never let the people who voted for him down

[Margaret Pilkington]

Well John, I have to say he was a ruddy awful leader of the council....he may not have let his ward down, but he made up for it with what he did(or didn't do for the town).

I am all out of patience with all politicians...every colour, every persuasion. To me they are lower than snake oil salesmen.

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Well John, I have to say he was a ruddy awful leader of the council....he may not have let his ward down, but he made up for it with what he did(or didn't do for the town).

I am all out of patience with all politicians...every colour, every persuasion. To me they are lower than snake oil salesmen.

(Lower than snake oil salesmen). Its a classic that one Margaret.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Well John, I have to say he was a ruddy awful leader of the council....he may not have let his ward down, but he made up for it with what he did(or didn't do for the town).

I am all out of patience with all politicians...every colour, every persuasion. To me they are lower than snake oil salesmen.

Ward councillor, can't be faulted.

Council Leader?

Search through my old threads.

Think I may have found one, or two faults, that I may have pointed out.

Though of course that's all in the past, now some are trying to label me as some right-wing, Little Englander.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

(Lower than snake oil salesmen). Its a classic that one Margaret.

Congratulations Bernard, you win a coconut, your first post on the thread

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

(Lower than snake oil salesmen). Its a classic that one Margaret.

You're bad.



Really hope I'm well tomorrow.

Wendy's promised me more high drama than an Wagner opera, more laughs than a Whitehall farce, more tears and tantrums than an Elton John fly-on-the-wall documentary.

I'm hoping to be so moved, as to give a standing ovation when the curtain comes down.

[mobertol]

I know little or nothing of Graham's career as a politician - but can understand that it's easy to be fooled by the bright lights of the capital. What counts at the end of the day is personal integrity and understanding that you are only in the position you are in thanks to the people who voted for you.

On his profile he looks to be a nice person - we can all make mistakes the important thing is to learn from them...

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

(Lower than snake oil salesmen). Its a classic that one Margaret.

Glad you like it Bernard! As they say, the old ones are the best.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

Though Graham did end his last message, in our little exchange, by saying he is 'appreciative of my support'.




I'd hate to think just how relentlessly badgering and angry I'd be, if I no longer supported him.

Thought you'd already withdrawn your support definitively...?! Or was that just my impression Garinda...

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

I know little or nothing of Graham's career as a politician - but can understand that it's easy to be fooled by the bright lights of the capital. What counts at the end of the day is personal integrity and understanding that you are only in the position you are in thanks to the people who voted for you.

On his profile he looks to be a nice person - we can all make mistakes the important thing is to learn from them...

Personally I was disgusted, no matter what his own, or his party's stance is on E.U. membership, when he posted on here that he had no problem with a referendum, mentioning democracy, then voted against it.

The spark that made that disgust turn into a nuclear explosion, was the fact that literally minutes after the vote result was announced in the Commons, Graham was on Twitter, smugly tweeting that the result was a 'Tory disaster'.

No mention how, because of how he chose to vote, and despite what he said, the result was a disaster for everyone.

A disaster for democracy.

A disater for Britain.

A disaster for the constituents of Hyndburns' rights.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Thought you'd already withdrawn your support definitively...?! Or was that just my impression Garinda...

I don't say one thing, and then do another.

I posted before the vote in the Commons, that I will never again for a politican, or party, that doesn't actively promote the need for an E.U. referendum.

I won't.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

Personally I was disgusted, no matter what his own, or his party's stance is on E.U. membership, when he posted on here that he had no problem with a referendum, mentioning democracy, then voted against it.

The spark that made that disgust turn into a nuclear explosion, was the fact that literally minutes after the vote result was announced in the Commons, Graham was on Twitter, smugly tweeting that the result was a 'Tory disaster'.

No mention how, because of how he chose to vote, and despite what he said, the result was a disaster for everyone.

A disaster for democracy.

A disater for Britain.

A disaster for the constituents of Hyndburns' rights.

Perhaps not so much a disaster as a wake up call ...time for people of integrity who have the common man in mind...

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

I don't say one thing, and then do another.

I posted before the vote in the Commons, that I will never again for a politican, or party, that doesn't actively promote the need for an E.U. referendum.

I won't.

My mis-understanding G, you did say:

"I'd hate to think just how relentlessly badgering and angry I'd be, if I no longer supported him"

I sometimes read things wrongly...mea-culpa!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

I know little or nothing of Graham's career as a politician - but can understand that it's easy to be fooled by the bright lights of the capital. What counts at the end of the day is personal integrity and understanding that you are only in the position you are in thanks to the people who voted for you.

On his profile he looks to be a nice person - we can all make mistakes the important thing is to learn from them...

As I've said, I think he is a good man.

He 'could' have been a good, representative, local M.P...for Hyndburn.

I honestly don't think he actually realises just how alienated from, and disgusted by, ordinary people are with Labour, after Blair/Brown.

He won Hyndburn.

It was most certainly not the Labour ticket, that came attatched to him, that secured the victory.

We hoped that attatchment was stronger to the people, than the party.

We now sadly know it isn't.