Do the Scots REALLY want Independance?

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

His combination of populist policies. (removing bridge tolls, student fees and prescription charges), good management and a reliable team of government ministers, has created a 'feel better' factor and confidence in today's Scotland

Who foots the bill for his "populist" policies?
If there is such a feel good factor and confidence in today's Scotland, why are there so many Scots living in England?

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Who foots the bill for his "populist" policies?
If there is such a feel good factor and confidence in today's Scotland, why are there so many Scots living in England?

Fair points, I'll keep my keyboard revolutionary comments to myself

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Who foots the bill for his "populist" policies?
?

The English do.
Something like £1500 more per person spent per person in Scotland by the Scottish Government(due to Barnett formula) than p/p in England.
They don't pay more tax than us so we're subsidising them- free prescriptions, care homes, universities( but not for English students) etc.

[Burningman]

Just sayin.......Scottish National Party is an anagram of "Oh nasty tartan politics"

[MargaretR]

This made me chuckle
England To Leave The UK Referendum - e-petitions

[MargaretR]

Our political system needs a boot up the backside, so maybe a yes vote will do it.
You may be convinced that it will be a financial disaster for us all, but then, we are used to them . If you feel your back is already against the wall, you have nothing to lose.

I remind you that during WW2 and its aftermath (food rationing) we survived worse.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

You may be convinced that it will be a financial disaster for us all, but then, we are used to them . If you feel your back is already against the wall, you have nothing to lose.

That depends which way the wall falls,MargaretR


I remind you that during WW2 and its aftermath (food rationing) we survived worse.

Are you comparing Alex Salmond to Hitler?
I think I'd prefer Hitler. He didn't do as much damage to the UK as Salmond will!

[Wynonie Harris]

I don't think it'll be a financial disaster for us. Some short-term disruption and a fall in the value of the pound maybe, but it certainly won't be a disaster. Reckon it'll be a short, sharp awakening for our friends in the North though.

My main worry in the event of a yes vote is how tough our servile politicos are going to be when it comes to divvying up the assets (and liabilities). Their behaviour in the past few days has been disgraceful, crawling cap in hand to the Jocks, offering them a massive new devolutionary programme (despite this not having been discussed by Parliament) and the ultimate insult, asking us all to display Scottish flags. Glad to see that's been totally ignored.

As far as I'm concerned, if the Jocks think they're so hard done by by being part of the Union, then fine, they can go their own way. I think they may find that the sunlit uplands aren't quite as sunlit as they thought they were!

[Lucysgirl]

I've been taking part in the Debate on the Facebook Page "A Sensible Debate About The Scottish Referendum", which I thought would be a reflection of all opinions and no opinions.

There's a bit of hanky panky going on with the Yes vote canvassers. For instance one chap inferred he'd been to England and asked "What do you think about this"? "This", being a a home made film taken in a shop, where not much of the background was visible. Customer asks "How much to exchange 100 Scottish Pounds to English pounds, and received a verbal quote. "Hmm, that's a bit steep" said the "customer". Gasps & protests from the Facebook Posters of how the English were thieving b's and why didn't they accept the Scottish Notes down there.

It wasn't until I submitted a response that others realised what was going on. I asked the poster why he expected a shopkeeper to exchange £100 with a complete stranger who didn't want to buy anything, and also why hadn't he exchanged his money at a nearby bank or post office instead of using a commercial Bureau De Change that charged professional fees for their service.

Another Yes poster said, "Look what came through my letterbox today". Attached was an image of a leaflet from (can't recall the name but the prefix was "Rev" (as in man of the cloth)) The poster read that the Rev had been informed that, just like Eire, prices would increase if Scotland should become independent and join the EU. The Rev went on to say he'd telephoned Tesco's head office and Tesco had assured him that they had no plans to increase their prices. This proves that the bully boys from Westminster are liars who will say anything. After that posting there were scores of "likes" and a flurry of WM liar, WM liar postings.(WM = Westminster). I don't have a nose like Pinnochio but I do use mine to poke around and I compared online Tesco UK prices with online Tesco IE prices. As usual there was a choice of differing weights for the same like for like item so I had to do some basic maths to reach the same weight and then convert Euros to £Sterling. I chose a couple of basic items and found that the UK gets a cheaper price. :

Kelloggs 1K Cornflakes = £3.15 price in UK and £3.80 price in Eire/Ireland.

Batchelor processed Peas stocked in UK & Eire but weights were different - if weights were the same, the prices would be:
420 g :- Eire = Euros 0.99 ... and UK = Euros 0.88

I don't know about everyone else but it was a mortal sin to lie when I was a youngster and we grew up to be honest straight forward people. lol I bet many of you had a parent like mine whose eyes could pin you to the wall or you'd freeze like a rabbit caught in headlights :-)

[cmonstanley]

the snp and yes are basing their campaign on sticking bloody stickers and posters everywhere, intimidation, damn lies meetings with sabre rattling. they are a bunch of Nazis . I keep asking them about currency they keep saying the pound, I say I thought you didn't want to be british they answer its our pound as well. I friggen just give up they are so politically and economic inept damn well stupid. they just try and railroad every debate with lies and stupidness. hopefully people will see through them before its too late. I just don't know what they want the yes campaign are a bunch of morons. not all Scottish people are stupid as them.

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl

I've been taking part in the Debate on the Facebook Page "A Sensible Debate About The Scottish Referendum", which I thought would be a reflection of all opinions and no opinions.

There's a bit of hanky panky going on with the Yes vote canvassers. For instance one chap inferred he'd been to England and asked "What do you think about this"? "This", being a a home made film taken in a shop, where not much of the background was visible. Customer asks "How much to exchange 100 Scottish Pounds to English pounds, and received a verbal quote. "Hmm, that's a bit steep" said the "customer". Gasps & protests from the Facebook Posters of how the English were thieving b's and why didn't they accept the Scottish Notes down there.

It wasn't until I submitted a response that others realised what was going on. I asked the poster why he expected a shopkeeper to exchange £100 with a complete stranger who didn't want to buy anything, and also why hadn't he exchanged his money at a nearby bank or post office instead of using a commercial Bureau De Change that charged professional fees for their service.

Another Yes poster said, "Look what came through my letterbox today". Attached was an image of a leaflet from (can't recall the name but the prefix was "Rev" (as in man of the cloth)) The poster read that the Rev had been informed that, just like Eire, prices would increase if Scotland should become independent and join the EU. The Rev went on to say he'd telephoned Tesco's head office and Tesco had assured him that they had no plans to increase their prices. This proves that the bully boys from Westminster are liars who will say anything. After that posting there were scores of "likes" and a flurry of WM liar, WM liar postings.(WM = Westminster). I don't have a nose like Pinnochio but I do use mine to poke around and I compared online Tesco UK prices with online Tesco IE prices. As usual there was a choice of differing weights for the same like for like item so I had to do some basic maths to reach the same weight and then convert Euros to £Sterling. I chose a couple of basic items and found that the UK gets a cheaper price. :

Kelloggs 1K Cornflakes = £3.15 price in UK and £3.80 price in Eire/Ireland.

Batchelor processed Peas stocked in UK & Eire but weights were different - if weights were the same, the prices would be:
420 g :- Eire = Euros 0.99 ... and UK = Euros 0.88

I don't know about everyone else but it was a mortal sin to lie when I was a youngster and we grew up to be honest straight forward people. lol I bet many of you had a parent like mine whose eyes could pin you to the wall or you'd freeze like a rabbit caught in headlights :-)

the cybernats are everywhere on the internet spreading propaganda lies . halfwits is too tame a name for them.

[accyman]

its all well the scotts that want to go it alone saying they dont need the english but have they asked themselves who will do their DNA and lie detector tests because i dont think jeremy kyle will fork out for passports as well ..

hey its not my fault most of his guests are scottish i didnt put them on a train down here they got on it by themselves

[cmonstanley]

remember its not all Scotland

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the snp and yes are basing their campaign on sticking bloody stickers and posters everywhere, intimidation, damn lies meetings with sabre rattling. they are a bunch of Nazis . I keep asking them about currency they keep saying the pound, I say I thought you didn't want to be british they answer its our pound as well. I friggen just give up they are so politically and economic inept damn well stupid. they just try and railroad every debate with lies and stupidness. hopefully people will see through them before its too late. I just don't know what they want the yes campaign are a bunch of morons. not all Scottish people are stupid as them.

Well, we have to hope your last sentence has some truth in it.
The consequences of people being seduced by what Alex Salmond is putting forth are very real and long lasting....detrimental for all of the UK.
Let us hope that those who are currently planning to vote. YES.....wake up before it is too late.

[Neil]

Vote yes and enjoy your freedom from Westminster.