Do the Scots REALLY want Independance?

[churchfcrules]

I'm guessing the borders wild be similar to those in N Ireland, I was working over there a few years ago, and was driving from Belfast to Dublin, the only way I noticed I had crossed the border, was that the road signs changed from miles to kilometres, without warning I may add, I thought I was going in a circle until I realised, oh that and the massive signs telling you that the roads were paid for with EU money, I'm guessing this would be the same in Scotland, massive eu handouts, so we would still be paying anyhows

Also the question of defence, to guarantee no invasion of this isle ( wich we have managed for nigh on a millennia ) would we not be obligated to providing support for a Scottish Army

And also the cost to us in replacing the Scottish regiments, and the impact it would have on our own troop strengths, I am sure some one on here could provide figures on how many Scottish soldiers the british army currently has

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by churchfcrules

And also the cost to us in replacing the Scottish regiments, and the impact it would have on our own troop strengths, I am sure some one on here could provide figures on how many Scottish soldiers the british army currently has

As replacements the disbanded English regiments could be reactivated for a start. As to numbers involved a Battalion can be anything from 300 - 1,200 troops, at present the "Royal regiment of Scotland" contains
5 regular Battalions (lets say 5,000 troops) plus 2 TA Battalions (2,000 troops) Also to be included would be the 1st Battalion the Scots Guards (part of the household Division, but still in the main a Scottish regiment) so a further 1,000 troops. Totalling 8,000 men approximately I'd suggest.

That said, the figures used are mere guesswork as real numbers are usually vastly different, many units & in particular Infantry are chronically undermanned. Add to that the amount of Scots that serve with Corps & Regiments within the "English" army, may change their allegiance if they could do their job with a "Jock" unit.

Ach weel, ya jus' dinnae ken, ya ken !

http://www.royalregimentofscotland.o...battalions.php

[Barrie Yates]

Of course DinG, one has to take into account the number of "foreigners" (non-English), that have traditionally served in the British Armed Forces throughout time. Irish, Welsh, Ghurka, Indian, Fijian (and other Pacific Isle nations), South Africans, Australians, New Zealanders, West Indian and many more.
The Scottish Regiments are really that only in name - they are paid for by the British Taxpayer, so it is therefore unlikely that an independant Scotland could afford them.
As this vote affects the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland then all citizens should be entitled to a vote - then Scotland would probably be certain of getting independence.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Of course DinG, one has to take into account the number of "foreigners" (non-English), that have traditionally served in the British Armed Forces throughout time. Irish, Welsh, Ghurka, Indian, Fijian (and other Pacific Isle nations), South Africans, Australians, New Zealanders, West Indian and many more.
The Scottish Regiments are really that only in name - they are paid for by the British Taxpayer, so it is therefore unlikely that an independant Scotland could afford them.
As this vote affects the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland then all citizens should be entitled to a vote - then Scotland would probably be certain of getting independence.

If Scottish regiments are payed for by the British taxpayer, then some of the money must come from Scottish taxpayers. And it should not be forgotten that Scottish troops served with distinction in the British Armed Forces. We should not forget that on this day of remembrance.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Eric

If Scottish regiments are payed for by the British taxpayer, then some of the money must come from Scottish taxpayers. And it should not be forgotten that Scottish troops served with distinction in the British Armed Forces. We should not forget that on this day of remembrance.

I did state "British Taxpayer" - as Scotland is still part of the United Kingdom & Northern Ireland then it should be quite obvious that Scots are also paying the same taxes.
I have served with Scots as well as the other nationalities that I mentioned so I am well aware of their contribution since the Act of Union.

[shillelagh]

well looks like robert the bruce approves of the uk staying as it is

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by shillelagh

well looks like robert the bruce approves of the uk staying as it is

Ya even he knows with side his bread is buttered on

[cmonstanley]

no we are stronger together.united we stand divided we fall he was french anyway .

[ToffeeGuy]

Don't give scots the satisfaction. This year England, Wales and N Ireland should have a vote to see if we should eject Scotland from the union and beat them to it.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy

Don't give scots the satisfaction. This year England, Wales and N Ireland should have a vote to see if we should eject Scotland from the union and beat them to it.

That sounds like a great idea

[cmonstanley]

dont give the scots satisfaction,your having a laugh so you are saying all scots want independence, think the same, look the same way i dont think so as your hero david cameron is scottish lol you call me a bigot but your judgemental attitude lowers your level i thought you were better than that

[Burningman]

So I assume you would back giving Northern Ireland back to the Irish as they inhabit the same bit of rock?

I’m starting to think it might be a good idea to break up the union, it might give Westminster politicians some sense of reality about where we stand in the world instead of constantly trying to ‘punch above our weight’ at vast cost.

Perhaps Etonians don’t get the boxing analogy where 99.9% of fighters who try to box above their weight, get beaten.

BTW.. while we talk of fighting....The Scots have defended Britain to the the tune of twice the man loss level of England since the Union and you ask if we can defend ourselves?

[ToffeeGuy]

Newspaper headline "Cameron says wants to be UK PM until 2020".

I'm off to Scotland.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy

Newspaper headline "Cameron says wants to be UK PM until 2020".

I'm off to Scotland.

Bye missing you already

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

dont give the scots satisfaction,your having a laugh so you are saying all scots want independence, think the same, look the same way i dont think so as your hero david cameron is scottish lol you call me a bigot but your judgemental attitude lowers your level i thought you were better than that

Maybe all Scots don't want independence because they realise if the cut ties with GB free university education would go as would free prescriptions free hospital parking free home care for the elderly ect ect ect