Have your say - Page 8

katex · 28-07-2008, 17:36

This was another side to it :-

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...n_to_patients/

I just think is it wrong to sign a petition to reverse this new system without knowing any facts. Not on either 'side' except the patient, neither is Andrew, but nobody appears to recognise that.

cashman · 28-07-2008, 19:50

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Originally Posted by katex

This was another side to it :-

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...n_to_patients/

I just think is it wrong to sign a petition to reverse this new system without knowing any facts. Not on either 'side' except the patient, neither is Andrew, but nobody appears to recognise that.

you will get a damn site better idea if ya talk to the medical staff involved, and not on either side to me is a pathetic cop out, only 1 side fer any clear thinking person - the PATIENT.

also are you n boy wonder aware that the staff HAVE been warned not to divulge ANY information to the public about this matter? that fact may not bother some,but it sure as hell bothers me.

jambutty · 28-07-2008, 23:06

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Originally Posted by cashman

you will get a damn site better idea if ya talk to the medical staff involved, and not on either side to me is a pathetic cop out, only 1 side fer any clear thinking person - the PATIENT.

also are you n boy wonder aware that the staff HAVE been warned not to divulge ANY information to the public about this matter? that fact may not bother some,but it sure as hell bothers me.

Warning staff not to talk about this matter publicly is a sure sign that there is something to hide.

garinda · 29-07-2008, 01:56

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Originally Posted by cashman

also are you n boy wonder aware that the staff HAVE been warned not to divulge ANY information to the public about this matter? that fact may not bother some,but it sure as hell bothers me.

People are being paid to monitor what people employed in the N.H.S. say in the public domain, and that includes this, as well as other, local site.

Discipline procedures are used against anyone divulging information that may be damaging.

This isn't a conspiracy theory, this is sadly fact.

cashman · 29-07-2008, 02:41

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Originally Posted by garinda

People are being paid to monitor what people employed in the N.H.S. say in the public domain, and that includes this, as well as other, local site.

Discipline procedures are used against anyone divulging information that may be damaging.

This isn't a conspiracy theory, this is sadly fact.

don't i know it, its a pity some are to blinkered to see.

jaysay · 29-07-2008, 10:40

I think that the perception tends to be more focussed when your the patient in need of emergency care. As some one who has been admitted to hospital on a three nines call on more occasions than I care to remember, once ending up in ICU, you begin to think that a trip from Ossy to Burnley as opposed to Ossy to Blackburn is rather scary to say the least. But isn't this what is happening, this centralisation with everything aimed mainly at saving money than thinking about the consumer, and if we loose a couple of bodies on the way, well its collateral damage, so long as that damage doesn't happen to be a pen pusher or a close relative, thats fine. Didn't we have the same with the fire service not long ago, burn baby burn, so long as its not my baby thats burning, the all system sucks

cashman · 29-07-2008, 10:44

i know that mate, you know it, sod all to wi politics its just crazy n some have not got the nouce to see it. - they need more info- which only the number crunchers can provide, cos the STAFF aint allowed.

BERNADETTE · 29-07-2008, 13:44

It seems that little or no thought has gone into the patients needs when this was set up. If the service had been improved the we would be inundated with facts and figures telling us about it.
It is all good and well saying that not many notes were not available but the figure should be nil. As for cleanliness how can they tell us it is top notch when members are telling us different??
Was any thought given into the problem for visitors having to travel from Burnley?? I think not, it is bad enough for local people to get there on public transport must be a nightmare trying to get there from Burnley. All these things should have been considered before a decision was taken!!!

MargaretR · 29-07-2008, 13:50

There are signs that the suit brigade are softening up a little, because I read recently that they are to build smoking shelters in the grounds for patients and visitors.
At last they realise that a total ban within their boundary is not being observed and is not enforceable.
I hope that this is a sign that they are now more aware of human needs

katex · 29-07-2008, 14:14

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Was any thought given into the problem for visitors having to travel from Burnley?? I think not, it is bad enough for local people to get there on public transport must be a nightmare trying to get there from Burnley. All these things should have been considered before a decision was taken!!!

What about this Bernie ? :-

Shuttle Bus Service Between Blackburn and Burnley Hospitals

Course you would have to go to Burnley Hospital first, but would have done anyway.