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03-08-2008, 11:40
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Re: Have your say
Think he is stable now anyway ... must have been one hell of a domestic row ... 
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03-08-2008, 12:02
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The Meek and Mild Member
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Re: Have your say
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Originally Posted by katex
Think he is stable now anyway ... must have been one hell of a domestic row ... 
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Domestic row kate  hell and I thought I had some humdiggers with my exes 
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03-08-2008, 12:07
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Re: Have your say
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Originally Posted by jaysay
Domestic row kate  hell and I thought I had some humdiggers with my exes 
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LOL .. well, reads like that in other reports ... think I may be being presumptuous though.
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03-08-2008, 12:11
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Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Accrington
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Re: Have your say
I've spoken to several NHS staff about the merger of Burnley and Blackburn. The first and main thing mentioned in all cases was the organisational problems. Staff don't like travelling further to work, and some doctors are responsible for patients in both Burnley and Blackburn. They get letters from consultants they don't know because they're spread over the two hospitals.
I queried about blue light situations involving ambulances travelling further. There are new ambulances with better trained paramedics on board, capable of dealing with critical patients much more effectively than your standard ambulance. They were quick to remind me that the first few minutes are incredibly important, so having that vital knowledge and equipment on board will save lives.
From what I have gathered the overwhelming problem is silly organisation. People who worked in Burnley moved to Blackburn, and people working in Blackburn moved to Burnley. Doctors should be at one site not spread over two.
It is quite clear that we need less top down control over our health service. More consultation with staff is required to sort out these organisational issues. That however, involves staff actually going to the management, with or without a Union representative, and airing their views.
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03-08-2008, 12:39
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God Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Accrington
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Re: Have your say
I think feed back from patients is a good way to go in this case. Surely it wouldn't be difficult to print questionaires which would give the patient the oppurtunity to comment on all aspects of their care. I don't think it is acceptable that cleanliness is being neglected, patients are kept waiting for bed pans and are discharged from a ward to be kept waiting in the ambulance lounge for medication that they need.
I also feel that staff are making their feeloings known only for their concerns to be ignored. I don't think the doctor who went to the press with his concerns did so lightly. It is time management started listening to the people who know what is happening
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03-08-2008, 12:45
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Re: Have your say
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE
I think feed back from patients is a good way to go in this case. Surely it wouldn't be difficult to print questionaires which would give the patient the oppurtunity to comment on all aspects of their care. I don't think it is acceptable that cleanliness is being neglected, patients are kept waiting for bed pans and are discharged from a ward to be kept waiting in the ambulance lounge for medication that they need.
I also feel that staff are making their feeloings known only for their concerns to be ignored. I don't think the doctor who went to the press with his concerns did so lightly. It is time management started listening to the people who know what is happening
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No excuse for it but hospital cleaning was bad before the merger.
The doctor should have gone to management or their trade union representative. Then if they refused to take their opinions on board they should have gone to the paper. I agree though, they should listen more.
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03-08-2008, 12:49
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Re: Have your say
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Originally Posted by andrewb
No excuse for it but hospital cleaning was bad before the merger.
The doctor should have gone to management or their trade union representative. Then if they refused to take their opinions on board they should have gone to the paper.
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Got to say that when Ian was in Blackburn Royal before the merger the ward was spotless.
As for the doctor, do we know that he didn't complain to management? Would imagine going to the press and putting his job on the line would be a last resort to try and get things improved!!
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03-08-2008, 12:55
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#128
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Re: Have your say
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE
Got to say that when Ian was in Blackburn Royal before the merger the ward was spotless.
As for the doctor, do we know that he didn't complain to management? Would imagine going to the press and putting his job on the line would be a last resort to try and get things improved!!
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The hospital might have looked spotless (especially if you were in the new bit) but MRSA and the more deadly c difficile were still about before the merger.
You'd have thought they'd have gone to the paper as a last resort but it seems not according to the article Katex posted and what I've heard off staff.
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03-08-2008, 13:04
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Re: Have your say
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Originally Posted by andrewb
The hospital might have looked spotless (especially if you were in the new bit) but MRSA and the more deadly c difficile were still about before the merger.
You'd have thought they'd have gone to the paper as a last resort but it seems not according to the article Katex posted and what I've heard off staff.
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It wasn't the new hospital it was Blackburn Royal!!! Management are hardly going to say that a member of staff has complained and they haven't acted, anyway you are going to think one thing and me another. Still think they could consult the patients after all they are at the forefront of all this!!!
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03-08-2008, 13:19
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Re: Have your say
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE
It wasn't the new hospital it was Blackburn Royal!!! Management are hardly going to say that a member of staff has complained and they haven't acted, anyway you are going to think one thing and me another. Still think they could consult the patients after all they are at the forefront of all this!!!
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They do consult patients in the post, at random, after you have been in hospital. I have received several myself so I think they must send a large amount out.
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03-08-2008, 13:31
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#131
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Re: Have your say
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Originally Posted by andrewb
They do consult patients in the post, at random, after you have been in hospital. I have received several myself so I think they must send a large amount out.
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That is the first time I have heard anything about that, would be interesting to know if any other members have received this. What I meant was to give questionaires to patients who would then have the option of filling them in.
Interesting that none of the health workers who are members on here have commented, maybe because they have been warned that their jobs are at risk if they discuss their concerns  That is not a guess on my part I have been told that this in private!!
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