Human Rights Act...

[blazey]

A lot of people blame the Human Rights Act for all sorts of things and seem to have little faith in it.

Do you think the Human Rights Act is a good thing or a bad thing for this country, and if you think it is bad, how do you suggest we go about changing things?

Obviously to avoid the Human Rights Act completely we would have to leave the EU but what would you recommend we do to protect our rights instead?

The issue is far more complicated than just an opinion on a forum but it' be interesting to see what people think.

I am a supporter of the concept of the Human Rights Act although there are injustices caused by it. I've had to argue for abolishment of the Human Rights Act in two different assessments during my last academic year and my team has won the argument both times even though I don't agree with abolishing it, so it is clearly arguable on both sides so I'm not asking the impossible!

I just want to know your reasons for being for or against the Human Rights Act. 'Discuss'

[cashman]

agree with ya on supporting the concept, fer me that is a must, have no intention of getting into a long discussion, but parts of it are utter crap n no-one has the guts to address em.

[blazey]

I don't have a legal answer to what needs to be done. Nobody can really say the idea has bad intentions though and no law is ever going to exclude criminal rights because the law can't discriminate against people...

so what do you do? Even if there was no human rights act and we weren't in the EU there still needs to be something to protect our rights surely? Or do we need something to protect them? Could we just hope that they'll be respected naturally without having to enforce them?

[cashman]

all i will say on the matter,is each country has its values,traditions, laws,etc, these should be adhered to by all, if not those rights should be forfeited.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by cashman

all i will say on the matter,is each country has its values,traditions, laws,etc, these should be adhered to by all, if not those rights should be forfeited.

For every law broken or just a few? You can't be vague with claims like that.

When I started uni we all sat down and the tutor asked us which of us had never broken a law and not a single person in the room, including her, could say they hadn't broken a law at some point of their lives.

[andrewb]

The European Human Rights Act has good intentions. It however stops us deporting people who might harm us, what about the human rights of ordinary citizens? There are lots of silly things that people manage to do because its their 'human right' under the act.

Scrap it. Lets create a Bill of Rights, created by the British for the British. Have it outside of the parliament act so both houses must vote on changes, thus preventing any government of the time from invading our individual freedoms.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by blazey

For every law broken or just a few? You can't be vague with claims like that.

When I started uni we all sat down and the tutor asked us which of us had never broken a law and not a single person in the room, including her, could say they hadn't broken a law at some point of their lives.

i can be as vague as i want, it needs to be discussed n sorted by wiser people than you or i, cyfrs pretty near the point, were i differ is i think it should be kept, but not in its present form, each country,culture is different.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by cashman

i can be as vague as i want, it needs to be discussed n sorted by wiser people than you or i, cyfrs pretty near the point, were i differ is i think it should be kept, but not in its present form, each country,culture is different.

So in other words you don't actually have a suggestion?

Either rights are forfeited for every crime or just a few, which is it?

[blazey]

Each country and culture is different but the Human Rights Act doesn't suggest protecting any rights that differ greatly in any EU country, they're just rights any human being should have regardless of where they are from.

You can't be a relativist and say every culture/country is different and turn a blind eye to other countries and what they do and then complain when things like the Holocaust or other genocides and massive violations of human rights occur, it just creates double standards and that is why we have agreements about human rights in the EU in the first place.

I care about the interests of this country and the people in it, but I think it is a bad attitude to life to just ignore what is happening in other countries.

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by blazey

Obviously to avoid the Human Rights Act completely we would have to leave the EU but what would you recommend we do to protect our rights instead?

Is the Human Rights Act actually a requirement for EU membership ? seems to me quite a few EU members have no qualms about deporting undesirables , they just put them on a plane and ship them out .
Seems to me its just another easy money maker for sleaziods who live and work in the cess pit called the 'British legal community' , a law created by lawyers for the enrichment of lawyers .

[jambutty]

Your poll is too simplistic blazey.