Just before the robbing Tory budget

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Unfair competition for private landlords?.. and so here we go again.
We had the same policy under the Tories in the 80's.. the obsession with regenorating mashed up housing by the private sector simply because of the idealogoly that the private sector can re-develop housing better than councils, the result is high price rents, bad back up on repairs, and at the end insecurity of the tennent.. and after all that the properties get off loaded to some housing association.
It's about time this country started to build houses for people and stop relying on the old stock.

you are joking mate after this budget i even fear fer cardboard city.

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Mancie

It's about time this country started to build houses for people and stop relying on the old stock.

At this time, absolutely not.

Hyndburn is nearly 90% terraced streets, the vast majority of which are still structurally sound after well over 100 years so why build poky shoeboxes during prudent times when renovating what we have is not only cheaper but more senisble?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

At this time, absolutely not.

Hyndburn is nearly 90% terraced streets, the vast majority of which are still structurally sound after well over 100 years so why build poky shoeboxes during prudent times when renovating what we have is not only cheaper but more senisble?

Absolutely spot on Ken, some houses that were built over a 100 years ago, will if maintained, be still be going strong well after these new builds have been dozed

[Mancie]

Don't want to keep grinding on about this but the cuts announced this week have been in job creation for under 18's while at the same time cutting billions form higher education and universities..cuts in projects for British industry..in short cuts for the average hard working people.. we were told it would be hard but I'm still waiting for the cuts on the the rich tax dodgers that funded the Tories in the last election.. I won't hold my breath.

[Mancie]

I do apologise... I should have made it more clear.. these cuts are a proclamtion that the ******* now in charge have decided there is no future for this country.. all the cuts so far have been in investments for our future.. It's easy to say but where are the Tories on here now?.. most of them jacked out in the last days of the election and never came back

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Don't want to keep grinding on about this but the cuts announced this week have been in job creation for under 18's while at the same time cutting billions form higher education and universities..cuts in projects for British industry..in short cuts for the average hard working people.. we were told it would be hard but I'm still waiting for the cuts on the the rich tax dodgers that funded the Tories in the last election.. I won't hold my breath.

Originally Posted by Mancie

I do apologise... I should have made it more clear.. these cuts are a proclamtion that the ******* now in charge have decided there is no future for this country.. all the cuts so far have been in investments for our future.. It's easy to say but where are the Tories on here now?.. most of them jacked out in the last days of the election and never came back

Come on Mancie , where's your self reliance and pioneer spirit ..... get out there .. 40 acres and a mule and sod the 'white' man . Don't be a rat in the Capitalistic maze.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I do apologise... I should have made it more clear.. these cuts are a proclamation that the ******* now in charge have decided there is no future for this country.. all the cuts so far have been in investments for our future.. It's easy to say but where are the Tories on here now?.. most of them jacked out in the last days of the election and never came back

Whats the point in trying to debate with a bigoted drunk with red tinted glassesBesides maybe the Tories on here will just take the same stance as did claytonender, Robert Owen, oops sorry Bernard Dawson, Graham Jones, when their Comrades in the last government came under fire on here, and well just disappear

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Robert Owen, oops sorry Bernard Dawson

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m...colm-eric.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m.../hyndburn.html

jaysay Congrats on your election last week Malcolm good result
John

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m...colm-eric.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m.../hyndburn.html

jaysay Congrats on your election last week Malcolm good result
John

You have a very Weird sense of humour, never have seen that as funny

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

You have a very Weird sense of humour, never have seen that as funny

Don't you?

I bet others do.

You knowing who the member hyndburn was, when it was a mystery to everyone else, and that he also has two usernames, hyndburn and malcolm.eric.

That's not even bringing up the hilarious fact that he used both accounts to write about Cllr. Malcolm Pritchard in the third person.

That you keep bringing up that Bernard Dawson used to have the username Robert Owen, is funny.

Ironic, but still funny.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Mancie, you never did answer the question I posed as to where you would find the money to fill in the financial black hole that the last government left behind.

I will say it again as you obviously didn't understand it the first time(and if you think I am being patronising by telling you this, I'm not...I am just trying to make it plain enough for you to see) Whoever had got into power, be it Labour, Tory, or the Raving lunatic party there would have had to be swingeing cuts to public services. We have lived beyond our means for years and now the bailiffs are knocking on the front door wanting their money.

I don't suppose you would have been sqealing so loud had it been Gordon and his crew back in number 10.......but the medicine would have been just as nasty...but pink......so that it would have tasted better!

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Whats the point in trying to debate with a bigoted drunk with red tinted glassesBesides maybe the Tories on here will just take the same stance as did claytonender, Robert Owen, oops sorry Bernard Dawson, Graham Jones, when their Comrades in the last government came under fire on here, and well just disappear

A very childish response but not unexpected from a lame duck Tory supporter... it's sad to see a life long Tory having to fend for himself when he is no more use to his party.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Mancie, you never did answer the question I posed as to where you would find the money to fill in the financial black hole that the last government left behind.

I think I did answer your question when I said all governments are in debt at present.. and I would find the money by taking on those who earn millions but, by "creative accounting" pay less tax than a milkman.. I would abolish the endless list of consultants and review boards that this Government have created within a few weeks...this lot don't know what to do and so they ask reveiw boards at a cost of millions.. you defend this Government all you like but most of us ain't fooled by the constant moaning and whinging about the last Government.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I would find the money by taking on those who earn millions

Sounds a little like socialism.

Hang on, didn't we just have three consecutive governments who sing about the Red Flag at their party conferences?

I must be a bit muddled, because for the past thirteen years those governments have toadied up to the City boys, and big buisness financiers, and made this country the destination of choice for every low tax paying, dodgy zillionaire in the world.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I am not, repeat, NOT defending anyone. How can I defend a government that I didn't vote for ?
What I have to defend, is the fact that someone is recognising that speedy action has to be taken to remedy what is, an awful debt.

I am just living in the real world where goods and services have to be paid for.
Unlike you, I do not blindly follow a political dogma regardless of what a logical analysis of the situation shows. And that isn't patronising either, despite what you might think.
I am just telling it like it is.