Labour's real legacy

[Boeing Guy]

In the style of Cmon, 1 in 4 primary school leavers are illiterate.
The source, UK Schools in Crisis | Oxbridge Essays

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

In the style of Cmon, 1 in 4 primary school leavers are illiterate.
The source, UK Schools in Crisis | Oxbridge Essays

So thats the reason

[yerself]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

In the style of Cmon, 1 in 4 primary school leavers are illiterate.
The source, UK Schools in Crisis | Oxbridge Essays

Before our tame Jock comes on I suggest you have a read at this: BBC NEWS | UK | Education | Grammar schools - why all the fuss?

[g jones]

It said on Radio 4 this afternoon that this was an improvement on previous figures. I think by and large Labour's legacy is good one. The first post war government to cut crime - by 42%! Educational standards rising amongst middle and upper class. Black marks for working class which has been static. Kings Fund says the NHS is no longer the sick man of Europe (and on the verge of collapse) and doing very well. Introduced current welfare to work policy in 2008. Late but effective. Introduced points system on immigration. Tories don't seem to be able to go further. Real issues around border control.

When you consider what Labour inherited. A national debt of 42%. Crime out of control. Schools with leaky roofs and portakabins. NHS with people waiting on trolleys in corridors and waiting lists that lasted years and years.

[garinda]

Labour's legacy?

Ensuring equality for all, by getting rid of archaic laws regarding gender.

[entwisi]

Graham, you didn't cut crime, you tied the police so much in paperwork no one can be bothered to report stuff anymore, house broken into? Heres a crime number and the finger print boys will be with you in a week....

Far more emphasis on speed cameras than having police on the roads, I see less than 5 police cars a week on my 120 miles a day journey, in that I probably see 3-4 illegal acts each journey, with no police out and about it all goes un noticed.

I have interviewed uni grads that cant spell simple words or hold a decent conversation, they seem to believe they are "owed" a job yet they are in no way fit for employment. The simple fact its that uni should be for the cream of the crop, not a way to hide youth unemployment.....

[cashman]

Originally Posted by entwisi

I have interviewed uni grads that cant spell simple words or hold a decent conversation, they seem to believe they are "owed" a job yet they are in no way fit for employment. The simple fact its that uni should be for the cream of the crop, not a way to hide youth unemployment.....

That has full agreement from me, basically any half wit can go to uni these days. n that detracts from the good uns imho.

[garinda]

Labour winning the General Election in '97 seemed as radical as the Russian Revolution.

Growing up under Thatcherism was akin to living in Imperial Russia. Their divine right to rule seemed as if it would go on forever.

Change seemed needed, and it was all very exciting and hopeful.

Ultimately it all became as grey, bland, and corrupt as the U.S.S.R. in the forties under Stalin.

It was just an exchange of an imperial autocrat for a egotistical despot.

I expect greed and selfishness of the Tories, it's all the more disappointing when supposedly socialists show the same traits.

Sadly, for many, power seems to corrupt.

The final nail in New Labour's coffin was Brown saying this, about an ordinary, working class woman...

[torquemada]

Same old complaint from labour when they took over from the conservatives in 1997 for two years they carried on with Tories fiscal policies then when they had to think for themselves they got the country into the worst recession, along with the banks that they didn't control. Things can only get better and sadly the country believed the the biggest lying bastard leader this country has ever had leading it. Now he tours the world adding to his bank balance why the rest of us suffer possible long term hardship.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by torquemada

Things can only get better .

Didn't think anyone was that dumb.........i was wrong.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I think it is wrong to try to get more young people to go into further education.....a university degree isn't the be all and end all in life.
Success should not be measured by whether you achieved a university education.......it should be measured by the usefulness of your own life.
Not all jobs require a degree.
We raise the expectations of our children, we tell them get an education and you will get a job..it doesn't always work like that.(especially if your chosen degree cannot be supported by work in the area you chose to study)
My advice to youngsters would be find a job...any job. find out what it is like to work for a living...even if that means punching a clock card.
If you don't know what career path to take then it is useless to do some Mickey Mouse degree course, purely so that you can say you have a degree.
Find something you like doing...then get someone to pay you for it, and you will have a happy life.
You don't stop learning just because you have left school.

[garinda]

Me and Cashy have a theory.

The collective psyche of the British people changed forever in May 1979.

Perhaps our politicans are like our newspapers.

We get what we demand...and therefore deserve.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by garinda

Me and Cashy have a theory.

The collective psyche of the British people changed forever in May 1979.

Perhaps our politicans are like our newspapers.

We get what we demand...and therefore deserve.

Spot on rindy.

[Margaret Pilkington]

How can you demand something that isn't there?
It is like going into a shop for a pound of apples....the chap says 'We haven't any apples'....and you come away having bought a bag of spuds(mouldy rotten ones at that...because you were not allowed to really see what you were buying)
To me that sums up politics.

[Alan Varrechia]

Welcome to Toryism Margaret.