Legalise "Illegal" Drugs? - Page 97

jaysay · 12-02-2013, 21:25

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Originally Posted by Restless

There really is no need to keep calling him a druggie. He has said he is no longer a drug user more than once.

while he keeps justify the taking of illegal substances for kicks and carries on trying to prove his point by using clap trap so be it, like they say an alcoholic is only one drink away from rejoining the ranks same goes for drugs

Michael1954 · 12-02-2013, 21:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay

while he keeps justify the taking of illegal substances for kicks and carries on trying to prove his point by using clap trap so be it, like they say an alcoholic is only one drink away from rejoining the ranks same goes for drugs

I used to smoke. Using your argument, am I still a smoker?

Restless · 12-02-2013, 22:02

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Originally Posted by jaysay

while he keeps justify the taking of illegal substances for kicks and carries on trying to prove his point by using clap trap so be it, like they say an alcoholic is only one drink away from rejoining the ranks same goes for drugs

He talks of past experiences and yeah he has some off the wall opinions and ideas about drugs and IMO weak arguments for the use of them. I have suggested again and again that this subject should be moved to 18+ if the "this is a family forum" is to be applied. I also agree that kesx should restrain himself a little (like the I drove on acid comment) and think of the idea that this is a family forum.

I don't know much much about alcohol addiction, but it was my understanding that they are always one drink away from becoming an alcoholic again because of the damage it has taken on the body. Damage that a person can never be fully recovered? I have never looked that much into it but if what I believe is to be true then it cannot be applied to drugs on a whole. How can you suggest that all addictions are the same as that of alcohol. Physically and mentally ?

jaysay · 13-02-2013, 08:08

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

I used to smoke. Using your argument, am I still a smoker?

Stick one in your mouth Michael and it will probably undo all the good work you did by stopping

jaysay · 13-02-2013, 08:20

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Originally Posted by Restless

He talks of past experiences and yeah he has some off the wall opinions and ideas about drugs and IMO weak arguments for the use of them. I have suggested again and again that this subject should be moved to 18+ if the "this is a family forum" is to be applied. I also agree that kesx should restrain himself a little (like the I drove on acid comment) and think of the idea that this is a family forum.

I don't know much much about alcohol addiction, but it was my understanding that they are always one drink away from becoming an alcoholic again because of the damage it has taken on the body. Damage that a person can never be fully recovered? I have never looked that much into it but if what I believe is to be true then it cannot be applied to drugs on a whole. How can you suggest that all addictions are the same as that of alcohol. Physically and mentally ?

Its called the University of life Rob, I've been around a long time and seen to many people in early graves through stupidity, I stopped smoking 35 years ago, if I hadn't I certainly wouldn't have been here today. You would never hear me saying I'm a onetime smoker but I recommend any body to try it, which is basically the theme of this thread from a onetime drug abuser, one of the mates I grew up with, went to his grave at the age of 42 because he couldn't say no to drink. The bottom line is I have no time for people who promote using illegal substances just for kicks, as I've said before I have a cupboard full prescribed drugs just to keep me alive, and some clown wants to promote illegal drugs just for kicks, especially when he uses comparisons like sugar to justify it, sorry its not on

Neil · 13-02-2013, 08:47

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Originally Posted by Restless

....There really is no need to keep calling him a druggie. He has said he is no longer a drug user more than once....

I agree it does appear a little unfair, would you be happy if we refer to him as a self confessed ex-drug user?

Gordon Booth · 13-02-2013, 09:01

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

I used to smoke. Using your argument, am I still a smoker?

From my own experience, Michael, yes you are.
Your just not smoking at the moment. Good for you.

Michael1954 · 13-02-2013, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

From my own experience, Michael, yes you are.
Your just not smoking at the moment. Good for you.

I failed to say that I am addicted to nicotine chewing gum!

Michael1954 · 13-02-2013, 10:12

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Originally Posted by Neil

I agree it does appear a little unfair, would you be happy if we refer to him as a self confessed ex-drug user?

It's certainly politer than some of the names he has been called.

jaysay · 13-02-2013, 10:13

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

I failed to say that I am addicted to nicotine chewing gum!

nice one Michael

DaveinGermany · 13-02-2013, 11:36

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Originally Posted by Restless

How the hell does someone drink 10 litres of coke a day? geeeeese

Easy, unscrew lid, pour into glass, drink, repeat .......... continuously until required amount is reached.

mobertol · 13-02-2013, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

I used to smoke. Using your argument, am I still a smoker?

No, but you are very susceptible to nicotine! Ny husband gave up smoking in 2000 (he was on 25 Marlborough a day), we went through 2 years of hell with his withdrawal symptoms until it all seemingly calmed down. 7 years ago for a "joke" his boss gave him some chewing tobacco to try (I told him not to but of course he didn't listen...)and he's now been using that for 7 years. To my mind it is worse than smoking the stuff -pretty disgusting to be honest. My point is that like an ex-alcoholic you are are just one step away from being hooked again -so take care!

Didn't read through the thread to see about the nicorette gum!

You could try alternating with Wrigley's spearmint gum and slowly cut down to zero - you will be hell to live with throughout the process though -warn those who know you! Nicotine affects exactly the same areas of the brain which heroin does...

kestrelx · 13-02-2013, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

I failed to say that I am addicted to nicotine chewing gum!

I packed up smoking 4 years ago in May and I used a hypnosis tape and nicotine chewing gum to cut down and get onto rolling tobacco then gave that up. I never have cravings for a smoke.

I am not addicted to the gum though - it did help me cut down over several years.

Most likely you could say I am addicted to tea, coffee and sugar as I probably couldn't go a day without them, also possibly chocolate.

Restless · 13-02-2013, 16:32

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Originally Posted by Neil

I agree it does appear a little unfair, would you be happy if we refer to him as a self confessed ex-drug user?

Neither.

Posts like jaysays last one is more preferable. Experience and insight more than sniping comments. The latter only brings this subject to go around in circles

kestrelx · 25-02-2013, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Restless

Neither.

Posts like jaysays last one is more preferable. Experience and insight more than sniping comments. The latter only brings this subject to go around in circles

There was a debate about this on the Wright Stuff today about should you discuss illegal drug taking with your kids or ignore it? There has been research done with conflicting conclusions. One woman said she shunned the issue with her son and he ended up dying of a drugs O.D another claimed he did openly discuss drugs with his son and the lad didn't have a problem with them, as the father did.

TV chef Gino D'Acampo admitted dabbling in drugs when he was younger and has discussed the issue with his sons! And his brains don't seem to have been fried!

Gino D'Acampo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia