Market Hall Refurbishment - Page 53

garinda · 09-11-2010, 21:02

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

There's no doubt Tesco do bribes; forgetting the brown envelope stuff, I think I put a posting a few months ago on the Stanley section about Tesco's football summer schools in Lancashire in 2010; 4 of 'em in total, all located in areas where Tesco had previously got planning permission for store developments. One of 'em, of course, was the Sports Centre in Church.

As I said.

It's easier to see as far as the next election, rather than thinking about the long term future.

gynn · 09-11-2010, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

There's no doubt Tesco do bribes; forgetting the brown envelope stuff, I think I put a posting a few months ago on the Stanley section about Tesco's football summer schools in Lancashire in 2010; 4 of 'em in total, all located in areas where Tesco had previously got planning permission for store developments. One of 'em, of course, was the Sports Centre in Church.

That doesn't wash, Tealeaf. If I was a member of the Planning Committee open to bribery and corruption, I think my price would be higher than the prospect of some future summer soccer school!

Could it be that Tesco selected the sites for their soccer schools in areas where they were about to develop new stores, as a Google Page Ranking Exercise to get themselves popular with future customers?

garinda · 09-11-2010, 21:06

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Originally Posted by gynn

That doesn't wash, Tealeaf. If I was a member of the Planning Committee open to bribery and corruption, I think my price would be higher than the prospect of some future summer soccer school!

Could it be that Tesco selected the sites for their soccer schools in areas where they were about to develop new stores, as a means of getting themselves poplular with future customers?

I'll ask again.

Accy Webbers who are also councillors, just how much did Tesco donate to the coffer's for regenerating the town centre, as part of their planning application offer?

Was it just the one million pounds?

garinda · 09-11-2010, 21:23

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

history - of which he knows nowt.

I know your history.

Ergo.

I know you're history.

You are the Missing Link.

Goodbye.

Tealeaf · 09-11-2010, 21:41

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Originally Posted by gynn

That doesn't wash, Tealeaf. If I was a member of the Planning Committee open to bribery and corruption, I think my price would be higher than the prospect of some future summer soccer school!

Could it be that Tesco selected the sites for their soccer schools in areas where they were about to develop new stores, as a Google Page Ranking Exercise to get themselves popular with future customers?

I didn't say that was the only bribe, did I? Stop and think...if you were a major corporation looking at a controversial development which was likely to face major oppostion, what would you do? Think of Sun Tzu, think of Machiavelli....put a little deception plan in place. Offer something like a footy school..many can see that is a bribe, so the opposition concentrates on that. But because it's not big enough to be a substancial bribe then the assumption is made by a mayority then they may have good intentions after all. But the real stuff is going on behind the scenes - and that's were the brown envelopes are passed.

Ken Moss · 10-11-2010, 06:46

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Does your response indicate that you did not challenge the statement but merely accepted it.
If that is the case, why did you not challenge the statement?

The way council meetings work is a rather rigid format that doesn't allow the freedom of speech you might expect, particularly during 'Correspondence' which is an opportunity for The Leader of the Council to tell us how well he's doing without interruption.

Apart from that, a newspaper article is a far more public way of challenging the statement....

cashman · 10-11-2010, 13:26

Have just been in market hall n visited 3 stalls, asked em all what do ya think about this weds opening? none were complimentary, the best thing to a positive comment were one said, its a real pain in the arse, after 2-00 i won't get any customers at all, but i have to stay open until 4-30, its a poor do when yer can't decide how yer own business operates, but yer can't win wi the council.

so marlene haworth musta spoke to 12 of the others, or did she?

Tealeaf · 10-11-2010, 13:29

She probably rigged the question and the votes. She should be on X factor.

Margaret Pilkington · 10-11-2010, 14:05

come on now...politicians(national or local) have been known to use poetic license......or as I would say...fiblets.
I don't believe what MH says, after all it is in her interests for the Market hall to be seen to be increasing Wednesday trade...she has a vested interest, as she is the cabinet minister(what a ridiculous title) for the place.

cashman · 10-11-2010, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

come on now...politicians(national or local) have been known to use poetic license......or as I would say...fiblets.
I don't believe what MH says, after all it is in her interests for the Market hall to be seen to be increasing Wednesday trade...she has a vested interest, as she is the cabinet minister(what a ridiculous title) for the place.

as i asked before, can she be sacked if its lies? or are cabinet ministers exempt, unlike ordinary M.P.s.

gynn · 10-11-2010, 14:11

Three have put their head above the parapet in the Telegraph

"A number of traders backed the comments.

Steve Hayman, of Slacks Butchers said, “Wednesday trade is definitely picking up and the trade is building nicely.”

Lynn Hind of Matthews Cards and Hardware said: “We are glad we are giving it a try as we have been busy”.

Andrew Lund of the Sweet Stall said: “We were in favour of the trial and we are finding trading decent, so far so good.”"

cashman · 10-11-2010, 15:07

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Originally Posted by gynn

Three have put their head above the parapet in the Telegraph

"A number of traders backed the comments.

Steve Hayman, of Slacks Butchers said, “Wednesday trade is definitely picking up and the trade is building nicely.”

Lynn Hind of Matthews Cards and Hardware said: “We are glad we are giving it a try as we have been busy”.

Andrew Lund of the Sweet Stall said: “We were in favour of the trial and we are finding trading decent, so far so good.”"

would hope thats the case, also would hope they aint related or friendly wi certain councilors. i was in fer approx 30 mins at dinner time n never saw 1 customer at slacks, cos i use em sometimes, but as there were no chickens on display i gave em a miss today.

jaysay · 10-11-2010, 18:07

I have made very little comment on the Market Hall refurbishment because I hadn't seen it, but I have now, its a hell of a site better than it was the last time I went in and was quite busy really, but still think it should be up to the traders to say whether they want to open, on Wednesday, end of story

heth · 10-11-2010, 19:06

Me and my Mum refuse to go in on a Wednesday as we feel that the traders should be able to decide not the councillors. Do they work 6 days a week and only have Sunday off is the question??

Neil · 10-11-2010, 19:43

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Originally Posted by heth

Me and my Mum refuse to go in on a Wednesday as we feel that the traders should be able to decide not the councillors. Do they work 6 days a week and only have Sunday off is the question??

Some work Sundays as well, the good ones that is