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03-09-2008, 09:54
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Location: Aberdeen
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McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
Here's a link to the full article: Palin's Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview
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Three months before she was thrust into the national political spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God.
Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.
Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.
"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."
Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.
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For the sanity and safety of the world, not just the States'; I urge every American reading this to vote Obama. God, Thor, Zeus, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or any other make believe being you wish to believe in has no place in state issues. Especially in ordering the President to send soldiers to their deaths in a farcical war. Let's get it straight - Bush, McCain and now Palin have all decorated the war in Iraq as a Christian version of Jihad. Cue jambutty...
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03-09-2008, 12:45
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SF/ Bay Area California
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
Totally disgusted/turned off with both parties choice of candidate, If I do vote and its looking like a big if , my choice will be a write in for Rep. Ron Paul . I know he doesn't stand a snowballs chance in Hell , but at least I will have made my feelings known .......not that the winner will give a damn .
Seems everyone I speak to in all parts of the country are of the same opinion ...." Surely we have someone better somewhere than either of these two".
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03-09-2008, 12:55
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Location: Up Bash
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
Ditto for UK, not one party that 'deserves' my vote
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03-09-2008, 14:26
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
On the surface, John McCain's choice of running mate is playing a blinder - get the women's votes!!!
But scratch below that surface and she does seem a bit too far out there! From what I've read she's advocating that Creationism is taught in all schools - for anyone who doesn't know what that is, it's the basic belief that every word in the bible, including the Old Testiment - i.e. Adam and Eve, is absolutely true. Scientific fact doesn't come into it!
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03-09-2008, 16:32
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
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Originally Posted by Gayle
On the surface, John McCain's choice of running mate is playing a blinder - get the women's votes!!!
But scratch below that surface and she does seem a bit too far out there! From what I've read she's advocating that Creationism is taught in all schools - for anyone who doesn't know what that is, it's the basic belief that every word in the bible, including the Old Testiment - i.e. Adam and Eve, is absolutely true. Scientific fact doesn't come into it!
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Problem is, in certain parts of the US she would not be considered "too far out there". Her views are shared by a large constituency.  And it is this vote that I think McCain is looking at, not the women's vote. If you want American women to vote for you in large numbers, you don't threaten Roe vs Wade.
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03-09-2008, 19:04
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
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Originally Posted by Gayle
On the surface, John McCain's choice of running mate is playing a blinder - get the women's votes!!!
But scratch below that surface and she does seem a bit too far out there! From what I've read she's advocating that Creationism is taught in all schools - for anyone who doesn't know what that is, it's the basic belief that every word in the bible, including the Old Testiment - i.e. Adam and Eve, is absolutely true. Scientific fact doesn't come into it!
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...and the belief that the world is less than ten thousand years old.
There's not even a smiley to show the idiocy of these people.
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03-09-2008, 21:27
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
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Originally Posted by shakermaker
...and the belief that the world is less than ten thousand years old.
There's not even a smiley to show the idiocy of these people.
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I agree. But, as the great English philosopher and mathematician Bertrand Russel pointed out there is no way that one can prove logically that the world was not created 5 minutes ago. Still that doesn't make people like Palin any less ridiculous or dangerous. Looks like the Democrats are the party of the relatively sane, and the Republicans rely on the vote of the certifiably loony. 
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03-09-2008, 22:18
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Location: SF/ Bay Area California
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
Didn't take long for comedy stuff to start
The Ballad of Sarah Palin from warpedcorp
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03-09-2008, 22:27
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republican atheist
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
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Originally Posted by steeljack
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Very funny  - but then- potentially tragic if McCain wins then snuffs it 
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03-09-2008, 22:56
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Location: Aberdeen
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
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Originally Posted by Eric
I agree. But, as the great English philosopher and mathematician Bertrand Russel pointed out there is no way that one can prove logically that the world was not created 5 minutes ago.
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Only if one reasons like a petulant child. Berty is senile. He didn't prove a thing.
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04-09-2008, 01:21
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Re: McCain's Running Mate.... no surprises
Here in Canada and living next door to the Mercans you learn to differentiate between the image/presention and reality.
So far she has
1) A Knocked up 17 year old unmarried daughter (So much for her religious family values)
2) Accusations that she influenced the firing of her brother-in-law who divorced her sister.
3) Reports that she made a presentation at a political party who wanted to separate Alaska from the USA.
She's not exactly squeeky clean bit let's see if the Mercans buy it.
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