Mein Kampf - Page 5

Less · 31-10-2007, 11:30

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Originally Posted by blazey

All the fee's lawyers charge are regulated so they cant 'overcharge', and not all lawyers jobs involve lying. If the criteria for becoming a lawyer were as simple as you state then why aren't people becoming them so they too can overcharge and buy those nice ferraris they've been dreaming of or whatever?

Well I wonder, did you really mean to say:-

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and not all lawyers jobs involve lying.

There goes my faith in the judicial system!

Ianto.W. · 31-10-2007, 12:53

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Originally Posted by Less

Well I wonder, did you really mean to say:-

There goes my faith in the judicial system!

Try getting one to work ror you if your Legal Aid has been used up and your funds are exhausted, you are very naive blazey Less I have no faith in the legal system, there are more lawyers than rats. When they have 'made' their money they 'referee' the game "What do you call 10,000 lawyers anchored in the Thames Estuary with the 'tide' coming in" " A damn good start"

blazey · 31-10-2007, 17:48

Well it depends what area of law the lawyer is involved in really doesnt it? And it depends how you are defining the word lawyer. If you are referring to a lawyer as just solicitors and barristers and in general criminal/civil lawyers then obviously at least 50% of every case must be telling some form of lie, though most acamedic lawyers have no need to lie about anything.

So no, i'm not being naive, and I think its quite reasonable to say that there are many lawyers that dont just lie.
And whats so bad about lawyers being paid so much money for studying long and hard and gaining the privilege of standing in court to defend/prosecute for someone when sportsmen for example get much more than anyone could really justify.

garinda · 31-10-2007, 18:02

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Originally Posted by blazey

Well it depends what area of law the lawyer is involved in really doesnt it? And it depends how you are defining the word lawyer. If you are referring to a lawyer as just solicitors and barristers and in general criminal/civil lawyers then obviously at least 50% of every case must be telling some form of lie, though most acamedic lawyers have no need to lie about anything.

So no, i'm not being naive, and I think its quite reasonable to say that there are many lawyers that dont just lie.
And whats so bad about lawyers being paid so much money for studying long and hard and gaining the privilege of standing in court to defend/prosecute for someone when sportsmen for example get much more than anyone could really justify.

A very poor defence.

Dismissed.

Next case.

Ianto.W. · 31-10-2007, 18:09

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Originally Posted by blazey

Well it depends what area of law the lawyer is involved in really doesnt it? And it depends how you are defining the word lawyer. If you are referring to a lawyer as just solicitors and barristers and in general criminal/civil lawyers then obviously at least 50% of every case must be telling some form of lie, though most acamedic lawyers have no need to lie about anything.

So no, i'm not being naive, and I think its quite reasonable to say that there are many lawyers that dont just lie.
And whats so bad about lawyers being paid so much money for studying long and hard and gaining the privilege of standing in court to defend/prosecute for someone when sportsmen for example get much more than anyone could really justify.

I'll withdraw the term naive and replce it with THICK, you koow nothing about them they are always 'economic with the truth, depending on who's paying them

blazey · 31-10-2007, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

I'll withdraw the term naive and replce it with THICK, you koow nothing about them they are always 'economic with the truth, depending on who's paying them

Lol ok then. Well lets hope that if your accused of a crime and ur innocent that you dont pay them to lie for you in court, otherwise you may get committed for crimes you didnt commit

Ianto.W. · 31-10-2007, 18:31

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Originally Posted by blazey

Lol ok then. Well lets hope that if your accused of a crime and ur innocent that you dont pay them to lie for you in court, otherwise you may get committed for crimes you didnt commit

Every time you open your mouth your foot goes in it. Have you ever paid one and seen what they try to charge? The first thing a solicitor does when you enter their office is start the charge clock, by the minute, if you phone them they do the same and you'r paying for the call. The worst anomoly is having to pay for two if you employ a Barrister you have to have soliciter present as well why? 'to instruct' them instruct them in what if the customer is there they can do that
I had a lifetime in business an HAD TO USE THEM,The system revolves around lawyers 'rubber' stamping the obvious , SO DO NOT SEEK TO JUSTIFY THESE PARASITES TO ME!

blazey · 31-10-2007, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

Every time you open your mouth your foot goes in it. Have you ever paid one and seen what they try to charge? The first thing a solicitor does when you enter their office is start the charge clock, by the minute, if you phone them they do the same and you'r paying for the call. The worst anomoly is having to pay for two if you employ a Barrister you have to have soliciter present as well why? 'to instruct' them instruct them in what if the customer is there they can do that
I had a lifetime in business an HAD TO USE THEM,The system revolves around lawyers 'rubber' stamping the obvious , SO DO NOT SEEK TO JUSTIFY THESE PARASITES TO ME!

Yes I know how paying a solicitor and a barrister works, I am not completely unaware of the system. However, some legally qualified workers class themselves as lawyers also, and yet arent necessarily barristers and solicitors, and there are lawyers that are honest and do things that are not as public as barristers and solicitors.

I'm sure that although you have paid hefty fee's to your legal advisers that you have been advised mostly well in the past rather than bad advice? If a solicitor or barrister doesnt do as good a job as possible for you then you can bring claims against him or her through the right governing body, so surely you could not have had bad services?

There are plenty of people that overcharge for their profession, dentists for example, but more often than not you are satisfied with the work they've done rather than dissatisfied.

Ianto.W. · 31-10-2007, 19:25

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Originally Posted by blazey

Yes I know how paying a solicitor and a barrister works, I am not completely unaware of the system. However, some legally qualified workers class themselves as lawyers also, and yet arent necessarily barristers and solicitors, and there are lawyers that are honest and do things that are not as public as barristers and solicitors.

I'm sure that although you have paid hefty fee's to your legal advisers that you have been advised mostly well in the past rather than bad advice? If a solicitor or barrister doesnt do as good a job as possible for you then you can bring claims against him or her through the right governing body, so surely you could not have had bad services?

There are plenty of people that overcharge for their profession, dentists for example, but more often than not you are satisfied with the work they've done rather than dissatisfied.

It was uneccessary advice it was the way the system was deveoped by the lawyers, you had to pay thm to rubber stamp things invented by them, thank god they are know in danger of loosing their 'bread and butter' trade , house sales, a monkey could convey a house you do not need them.
Why do you think it was a closed shop for hundreds of years, with son following father etc, no matter how thick or stupid they were. the practice is now being 'opened up thank's to education best of luck to you blazey, but if I had my time over I would join the 'dying trade' undertaking, all you need is a miserable demeanour and a long face, such as mine

blazey · 31-10-2007, 20:14

I don't plan into going into conveyancing thankfully, as I dont intend on becoming a solicitor, though perhaps I may one day be a barrister, but not for a long time as I hope to do a PhD after my LLB, and hopefully specialise in medical law. So not too may people on here would have much use of me hopefully, unless the nurses and perhaps doctors (any docs on accy web?) start practicing euthanasia illegally or something else corrupt lol.

Ianto.W. · 31-10-2007, 20:36

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Originally Posted by blazey

I don't plan into going into conveyancing thankfully, as I dont intend on becoming a solicitor, though perhaps I may one day be a barrister, but not for a long time as I hope to do a PhD after my LLB, and hopefully specialise in medical law. So not too may people on here would have much use of me hopefully, unless the nurses and perhaps doctors (any docs on accy web?) start practicing euthanasia illegally or something else corrupt lol.

If you must go for somthing go for the best job why be a hack when you can be a racehorse, as for eutanasia I could do with some of that, not much fun in life these day's I'm afraid except maybe crossing sword with you, as I said all the best with your determination it should be a cakewalk

Mik Dickinson · 31-10-2007, 21:14

Read it, read it, i bloody live through it every day over here LOL!

blazey · 31-10-2007, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

If you must go for somthing go for the best job why be a hack when you can be a racehorse, as for eutanasia I could do with some of that, not much fun in life these day's I'm afraid except maybe crossing sword with you, as I said all the best with your determination it should be a cakewalk

What exactly do you mean by 'be a racehorse'?

Eric · 01-11-2007, 18:57

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Originally Posted by blazey

I don't plan into going into conveyancing thankfully, as I dont intend on becoming a solicitor, though perhaps I may one day be a barrister, but not for a long time as I hope to do a PhD after my LLB, and hopefully specialise in medical law. So not too may people on here would have much use of me hopefully, unless the nurses and perhaps doctors (any docs on accy web?) start practicing euthanasia illegally or something else corrupt lol.

How does one practice euthanasia legally? Have there been changes to the law in England that I have missed? Can one now have one's nearest and dearest put down? By the way, I am a "doc", altho' there is not much scope in my field for mercy killing.

garinda · 01-11-2007, 22:47

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Originally Posted by Eric

How does one practice euthanasia legally? Have there been changes to the law in England that I have missed? Can one now have one's nearest and dearest put down? By the way, I am a "doc", altho' there is not much scope in my field for mercy killing.

No, you're right, of course euthanasia is still illegal in the UK. Miss Rumpole was wrong...again.