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Old 20-11-2006, 18:20   #16
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any subsequent ones for losing or missing you should then pay for it
Yes. Personal Responsibility.
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Old 20-11-2006, 18:36   #17
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Producing an ID card on demand Doug is the beginnings of a Police State.

Is that what people want?
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Old 20-11-2006, 18:40   #18
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Producing an ID card on demand Doug is the beginnings of a Police State.

Is that what people want?
No offence Jambutty, I’ll accept some restriction on my personal freedom (i.e. carry a card) if it helps to get the thugs and the rest of the scum off our streets.
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Old 20-11-2006, 18:41   #19
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Producing an ID card on demand Doug is the beginnings of a Police State.

Is that what people want?
beginnings? it began during the miners strike jim,a police state i think is a good arguement for another thread.
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Old 20-11-2006, 18:44   #20
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I wouldn't be against having an ID card as long as it was just that, a card with my photo on to say I'm who I am.. but I would not want the details of my whole life on it. DNA,credit ratings, empoyment past and present, what I ate for dinner? no thanks.
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Old 20-11-2006, 18:48   #21
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ERMMMM how much are these I.D cards gonna cost! ????
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Old 20-11-2006, 18:51   #22
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I wouldn't be against having an ID card as long as it was just that, a card with my photo on to say I'm who I am.. but I would not want the details of my whole life on it. DNA,credit ratings, empoyment past and present, what I ate for dinner? no thanks.
I agree with you there Mancie, that would be too much information.
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Old 20-11-2006, 18:53   #23
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No offence Jambutty, I’ll accept some restriction on my personal freedom (i.e. carry a card) if it helps to get the thugs and the rest of the scum off our streets.
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No offence taken Doug.

Slowly but surely the authorities are hemming us in and the sad part is that people are not only allowing it to happen but some actually welcome it on the illusion that ID cards will prevent crime etc.

It is claimed that an ID card will cost about £30 more than the cost of a biometric passport panther. But don’t forget it is our taxes that are being used to pay for the implementation. Money that could be better used in health and education. Note I don’t even mention pensions.
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Old 20-11-2006, 18:55   #25
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£30..........stuff that! nooooooooooo way
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Can you tell me a single goverment IT project that has actually worked?
That is a strange comment on a thread you started with a link to a Government web site. Does http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ not count as a Government IT project?
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Old 20-11-2006, 19:01   #27
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No offence taken Doug.

Slowly but surely the authorities are hemming us in and the sad part is that people are not only allowing it to happen but some actually welcome it on the illusion that ID cards will prevent crime etc.

It is claimed that an ID card will cost about £30 more than the cost of a biometric passport panther. But don’t forget it is our taxes that are being used to pay for the implementation. Money that could be better used in health and education. Note I don’t even mention pensions.
If I change my job it cost me £36 each time for a CRB Disclosure, it cost the same for each time I employ a member of staff or if a office based member of staff is promoted to a managment postion. I don't see a one off payment being to much to pay. The only thing that will bother me is if they give them away free to the people we're trying to control.
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Old 20-11-2006, 19:02   #28
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That is a strange comment on a thread you started with a link to a Government web site. Does http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ not count as a Government IT project?
Another paper bag me thinks, are is that another thread.
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Old 20-11-2006, 19:14   #29
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No offence Jambutty, I’ll accept some restriction on my personal freedom (i.e. carry a card) if it helps to get the thugs and the rest of the scum off our streets.
I accept no restrictions on my freedom nor should you, shame on you for saying it, why should we have restrictions, this is our land not 'Pakistan' or any other foreign land, but it needs saying, I apologise not for saying it!
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Old 20-11-2006, 19:25   #30
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I've said having an ID card would not bother me, but what are the circumstances in which I would need to produce it??
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