Oswaldtwistle Wind Farm

[maxthecollie]

How many people have had their TV reception blocked out by the Wind Farm on Ossy Moor. The Windfarm Company sent an aerial company round to our house this afternoon to turn my aerial from Winter Hill to Haslingden.and we would lose 60% of our channels. I told him no you can't do it, it is unacceptable to lose so many channels when we have not had them all that long. He told me that for a contribution to the council I could have a basic freesat installed so I told him where to go.We have a twin channel digital recorder which we can't use. All I am asking for is for the same as I have now.Is it too much to ask.

[katex]

Just wondered if the aerials you have are quite old, as these need updating sometimes ?

[maxthecollie]

No our aerial is only about five years old

[entwisi]

Heres a list of freesat channels, freesat Channels - Free Satellite, HD & Radio Channels - freesat is there something you get on freeview currently that isn't listed?

they should certainly replace your twin tuner PVR with a freesat equivalent so you are no worse off...

My Mum recently switched to Winter Hill for exactly the reason of Haslingden having less channels, luckily she doesn't appear to be affected. Hers is a brand spanking new fancy aerial though. At my house we have never been able to get a terrestrial signal due to teh trees etc being in the way so I've been on Sky for > 12 years

[accyman]

that windfarm was put up a few weeks after cameron announced severe cutbacks on windfarms,what a shame he didnt sort it sooner.

what an eyesore and waste of money.They have spent most of the time switched off because its been too windy for them.One would think they would design something that can handle high winds as it would generate more electricity.Its not as though our windy days are any match for hurricanes like they get in the USA for example.I go past them every day and the most i have seen in operation is 3.

a tin of beans and a childs windmill toy stuck behind my arse would generate more electricity than what they have and be a lot cheaper too

[accyman]

just a tip for those suffering from signal loss if your laptop has hdmi output and you have hdmi on your tv some tv shows can be slavaged if you hook your laptop up to your tv and watch iplayer,4od and the itv one.

you can also connect via a vga cable but you need to run sound to your tv seperatly or use a set of computer speakers

or just watch it on your computer if you dont mind a small screen

[entwisi]

be be wary if you are on a capped data package as its dead easy to batter through 2 GIG when streaming TV!

[Neil]

Originally Posted by accyman

what an eyesore and waste of money.They have spent most of the time switched off because its been too windy for them.One would think they would design something that can handle high winds as it would generate more electricity.Its not as though our windy days are any match for hurricanes like they get in the USA for example.I go past them every day and the most i have seen in operation is 3.

As far as I am aware only 4 have been mechanically and electrically commissioned so far which is why there have only been 4 turning so far. The rest will come online over the next few months as they are commissioned.


I agree they are not very nice to look at, as for waste of money I think we will have to wait 25 years until they are decommissioned before we will know if they were a waste of money. They are quoting that they could supply 52% of Hyndburns electricity but again only time will tell how accurate that is.

[maxthecollie]

I've seen more than 4 turning as we can see them when we walk Max up the track from our house.More and more people are now saying their tellies are getting a bad signal. I feel sorry for the older generation who cannot understand and thinking their tellies are on the blink.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Neil

commissioned.


I agree they are not very nice to look at, as for waste of money I think we will have to wait 25 years until they are decommissioned before we will know if they were a waste of money. .

Current expected life span of a wind turbine- 10 years before major failure or major maintenance. Some are only lasting 3 or 4 years before the gearboxes go 'crunch'.
Efficiency- I think it was less than 20% and on the cold, windless days in winter the only way they'll keep you warm is if you keep running round them.
Wasted money- I think so. Blots on the landscape- definitely.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Current expected life span of a wind turbine- 10 years before major failure or major maintenance. Some are only lasting 3 or 4 years before the gearboxes go 'crunch'.
Efficiency- I think it was less than 20% and on the cold, windless days in winter the only way they'll keep you warm is if you keep running round them.
Wasted money- I think so. Blots on the landscape- definitely.

I do not think wind turbines are all that we are told they are. Maintenance costs must be horrific - bad enough on land but what about the ones in the sea. If there is no wind then back up power must be provided - fossil fuels or nuclear. If there is too much wind then then the same problem arises as they have to be shut down.
They are supposed to be the answer to climate change, but to my mind they actually contribute significantly to climate change.
Firstly there is the manufacturing process, not just of the turbines but also the construction and additional cable - all of which use significant energy.
Secondly, we are told that energy cannot be created or destroyed, so if we assume that a turbine is 97% efficient then for every megawatt of electricity that a turbine generates more than a megawatt of energy is extracted from the wind - lots of turbines, lots of megawatts must result in a very great reduction in the winds. Wind is an intrinsic factor in weather patterns, so if the wind patterns change then the climate must change, perhaps that is why weather forecasts have become so unreliable.
Stop the turbines and increase nuclear or fossil fuel power generation seems to be the only sensible way to go.

[accyman]

there were 5 operating tonight on our side of the wind farm.Maybe when they get to running 6 they will clear fog over hassy old road :-)

[Neil]

How can increasing fossil fuel power be sensible when it is a finite source of energy and is known to effect the climate.

As for gearbox failure, they expect to change one in the 25 year life of the 12 which is less than a 10% failure rate.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Stop the turbines and increase nuclear or fossil fuel power generation seems to be the only sensible way to go.

And how much energy do they take up when they're being built?

[Stumped]

Has anyone been experiencing interference on their digital phones since these things were commissioned?