Ouch ! 35% price hike from British Gas

[cashman]

paris heard a report on radio lancs this morning, was a lancs coalman,saying more people are switching back to coal, they still have coal nooks so have a storage place, he also said they were looking at re-opening some pits in lancs, cos theres still plenty of coal in em, will be interesting to see how/if that develops, have me doubts personally, but think it would be great, warmer homes, extra jobs, etc, mind that would never do,would it?

[entwisi]

extra smog, decent sunsets, etc

seriously though, if you have a fireplace, there is loads of places to get free wood, why not go back to burning it?

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by cashman

paris heard a report on radio lancs this morning, was a lancs coalman,saying more people are switching back to coal, they still have coal nooks so have a storage place, he also said they were looking at re-opening some pits in lancs, cos theres still plenty of coal in em, will be interesting to see how/if that develops, have me doubts personally, but think it would be great, warmer homes, extra jobs, etc, mind that would never do,would it?

May well become viable with the increasing wholesale cost of energy. However I would rather we invest in cleaner energy sources which don't contribute to global warming. Rising water levels and enlarging deserts could lead to a lot of housing displacement and starvation in the future.

[MargaretR]

The coal fired stations being considered have a system to capture their emissions for underground storage - safer than nuclear waste storage

[entwisi]

Originally Posted by andrewb

May well become viable with the increasing wholesale cost of energy. However I would rather we invest in cleaner energy sources which don't contribute to global warming. Rising water levels and enlarging deserts could lead to a lot of housing displacement and starvation in the future.

Its OK mate, Baxenden is pretty high above sea level, we will be OK

there are plenty of examples of housing on stilts/pontoons etc around the world, flooding does not necessarily displace the housing, only the way we currently build them.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by margaret@rothwell5.f

The coal fired stations being considered have a system to capture their emissions for underground storage - safer than nuclear waste storage

That's good then. Coal will still run out though, we need a better alternative. Nuclear is one of them. Nuclear waste amounts are tiny for the amount of energy they generate.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by entwisi

Its OK mate, Baxenden is pretty high above sea level, we will be OK

there are plenty of examples of housing on stilts/pontoons etc around the world, flooding does not necessarily displace the housing, only the way we currently build them.

I was thinking about people in mudhuts in other countries.

[Benipete]

Originally Posted by andrewb

I was thinking about people in mudhuts in other countries.

The more water - the more mud -the more huts - solved.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by margaret@rothwell5.f

The coal fired stations being considered have a system to capture their emissions for underground storage - safer than nuclear waste storage

What about coke? No ... not the peruvian marching powder, the stuff you get from burning coal in coke ovens? I remember we burnt coke after the clean air acts; worked great.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by entwisi

extra smog, decent sunsets, etc

seriously though, if you have a fireplace, there is loads of places to get free wood, why not go back to burning it?

Are there not harmful emissions from burning wood? And there is not much wood in England when you think about it. Is there any geothermal potential? There is probably enough hot air generated in Westminster to heat the whole country

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Royboy39

Explain......................

Without going to google, just off the top of my head, I believe that natural gas "sits" on top of the oil .... back in the old days (my youth) they used to burn the gas off before pumping the oil. Nowadays the gas is piped off and is used to heat homes etc. Like oil,it is a non-renewable resource. Fortunately, in Canada, we have lots of it. and we export to the US.