Question for Graham Jones re Amy Houston

steeljack · 17-12-2010, 06:05

Question for Graham Jones ..... If any member of the House of Commons were to introduce a private members bill to scrap the Human Rights Act how would YOU vote ? a straight answer is only required, Yes or No.
Considering the fact that Amy Houston was a local lass and God forbid that the same thing could happen quite easily to a Hyndburn "Greater Accrington" girl/boy , how do you feel about this guy or any other illegal being allowed room and board in perpetuity in the UK.

other Accyweb users feel free to comment and tell us how you feel about this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-stay-UK.html

thanks

gynn · 17-12-2010, 07:40

Yes the Human Rights Act needs to be abolished or amended to exclude convicted criminals.

But what about the law that allowed this man to serve only 4 months for such a terrible crime? They should have locked him up and thrown away the key. His human rights should never have come into it.

cashman · 17-12-2010, 08:19

apart from his crimes n there were a few, it said on the news he was a "Failed Asylum Seeker"? so what this verdict is saying is kill a child when yer banned from driving then we wont send ya back cos yer Human rights will now be affected.

Wynonie Harris · 17-12-2010, 08:38

There are a few separate issues here, all of which highlight many of the things that are wrong with this country:

1) As Cashy says, if he's a failed asylum seeker why is here anyway?

2) Even if he was a successful asylum seeker (ie there was a genuine risk of him being killed or tortured in his home country), by this terrible act, he has forfeited any right to protection from us and he should be sent back.

3) As Gynn has said, 4 months inside is a travesty for this crime anyway.

We all know that the vast majority of ordinary people feel the same way. Unfortunately, those who inhabit Parliament do not.

jaysay · 17-12-2010, 08:48

Drivers have received more than 4 months for merely speeding never mind killing a young child and the fact he shouldn't have been on the road or even in the country for that matter. Its time for David Cameron to keep to his pre election promise of ditching the European Human Rights Act, but it seems he has back tracked in concessions to the pact partners the Lib/Dems

DaveinGermany · 17-12-2010, 09:43

I think my views are well known, but all recent (THAT'S ALL) Governments have allowed the travesty to perpetuate ad nausea to the point where the value of the ruling has been lost & is now seen as a get out clause for virtually everything & that is so wrong. Cameron promised change on *THRA* but as usual like all other Politicians once in power their *Promises*(read lies) are no longer relevant.

Jay it's no use spouting the 13 year Mantra, they made their bed & as such were punished. These New Boys haven't changed that bed, just turned back the sheets & climbed into it. The Public still have to suck up the same old she-ite but but it's just wearing a different coloured ribbon !

Had we still of had hanging for Murder, as that's what it was, well we wouldn't be having this conversation. And they wonder why people take the law into their own hands ????? Vigilantes ! No just fed up individuals who see no other recourse.

Benipete · 17-12-2010, 10:08

Just like every European Law/Act the British stick to it rigidly while the rest of Europe choose the bits they like and totally ignore the bits they don't.

accyman · 17-12-2010, 10:15

we could just throw him down the channel tunnel and let france wory about him.Would be nice if it was the other way around for once

JCB · 17-12-2010, 10:47

Please don't confuse the European Court of Human Rights with the EU .

They are distinct .

Margaret Pilkington · 17-12-2010, 13:00

Tell me this.......is it only criminals whose human rights are respected?
Didn't Amy Houston have a right to expect to live?
Didn't her family expect the right to see their daughter grow up, rather than being mown down by a spineless bit of human detritus(who should not have been in the country in the first place) who couldn't even call an ambulance, or give assistance to a dying child?

No wonder all the asylum seekers head for the UK.
I am disgusted with this decision to let this person stay in the UK....he and his family should be shipped out to Iraq, and there he could have a family life in private.

Wynonie Harris · 17-12-2010, 13:12

So where is the outcry against this in the media and amongst the great and the good? Confined to the right wing tabloids and a few backbench Tory MPs, that's where.

Why are no leading politicians from any of the three parties speaking out against it? Why are there no indignant opinion columns in the Guardian or the Independent about it? What about all the human rights campaigners (John Piliger, Bianca Jagger, Jemina Khan) who are getting all worked about the Wikileaks bloke? Why are there no public figures campaigning for reform of the Human Rights Act so that this travesty of justice can never happen again?

Could it be that Parliament and the liberal/left consensus actually think that this appalling situation is actually a necessary price to pay for the "benefits" of the Human Rights Act?

Wynonie Harris · 17-12-2010, 14:42

Correction: David Cameron has now commented on it.

BBC News - PM's anger at Blackburn death crash driver ruling

All very well, but why doesn't he keep his promise to scrap or amend the Human Rights Act?

Margaret Pilkington · 17-12-2010, 14:44

Comments don't equate to action...I would be more impressed if he actually did something constructive.

DaveinGermany · 17-12-2010, 14:58

I'd say the only reason he's commenting is to pay lip service (like he's done so many times previously) He's realized pishing into the wind gets you wet, but in the end it's only words & they don't mean Jack. Spineless & ineffective !

Cameron calls for repeal of Human Rights Act | Politics | guardian.co.uk

Cameron pledges bill to restore British freedoms | Politics | The Guardian

Wynonie Harris · 17-12-2010, 15:04

Totally agree!