Racism amongst Toddlers?

[flashy]

i'm sexist....i only like men

[SPUGGIE J]

Originally Posted by Mancie

yep I reckon it's the TV ..tranvestites..Danny LaRue and Lilly Savage have got alot to answer for all this!

A nice example there. Though through personal experience of how kids (not mine) are brought up parents bad habits are picked up. Sad though it sounds there is a large minority that will become the next scurge of life.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

A nice example there. Though through personal experience of how kids (not mine) are brought up parents bad habits are picked up. Sad though it sounds there is a large minority that will become the next scurge of life.

that don't add up spug, mine are quite sensible.

[Mancie]

And that geezer Dale Winslet (ooer ummm ..shut that door) it's all gone wrong..bleedin nonce case!

[SPUGGIE J]

Originally Posted by cashman

that don't add up spug, mine are quite sensible.

Brain wasnt working properly last night. There are kids that do, as in another thread soak stuff up like a spunge. On leaving the house the other day the little squirt next door to me was singing songs of a racist nature in front of his little sister which she picked up and was trying hard to make it sound right. The mother didnt check them at all but agreed that as per the song that the grocery shop owner was a "****" (swear word here). Yet he is from India not Pakistan. Tried to convince them otherwise, mother included he was not From Pakistan but to no avail for the mother was convinced that all dark skinned peoples are "****" No wonder kids are so readily racist when surrounded by such guff from the pop day till they die. To emamums point about the nuserary then they were the rasist ignorent ones. How would one of them have reacted if say they lived in North Wales and the nuserary was full of welsh speakers? Kids pick up more and more and there is no real counter to it.

[blazey]

Firstly, I don't agree that racist adults produce racist children. My stepdad was racist and I despise it (though maybe that's because I despise him).

Secondly, on a note relating to what willow was saying about having to stop and think what race people are, I once did something rather humorous in my sociology class in my first year of college. Here's how it goes.

Basically, there was a interviewing process going on at college and it required the opinions of white girls. Anyway, I was the only girl who seemed to be able to volunteer, the others all piped up saying they had things to do and whatever, and so I turned to my muslim friend nassira and said 'why don't you do it?' to which she answered 'because i'm not white'. She's half african/half asian. Now, I felt a bit silly of course for this, but my teacher said it was lovely how it clearly showed that I didn't show any sort of regard to what colour people are, we're all just the same. My friend wasn't offended by it either, but I still feel a bit silly about it today!

If anyones curious, they were just trying to get us to say we were uncomfortable by the full veil being worn to college, to which I saw through right away and said it didn't bother me. Would've hated it if they had used my answers to try and stop people wearing it to college and stuff like that, especially as it was the time of Jack Straw's comments about it, so I kept my answers short and sweet .

I hate racism, but I think the only way for a child THAT age to be racist is if the parents have taught them that, otherwise they're just reacting negatively to it because it is strange and new to them, and they'll soon get used to it.

[WillowTheWhisp]

The daft thing about all these rules and laws and what have you about racism is that it doesn't matter what you do it will not change how people actually feel. If people with one colour of skin dislike people with a different colour of skin making laws about it isn't actually going to stop them disliking each other. They may well pretend on the surface that they are not and never will be racist but underneath they still are and always will be.

I worked with someone like that. She was nice as pie to the new girl who started but behind her back she was complaining that 'standards had fallen' because 'we were now employing people of an inferior race'!

Unfortunately it can actually often be counter productive because it tends to irritate and annoy the people who would never have considered what race or colour another person is until laws and rules appear which segregate people into ethnic groups.

If A and B are the same race/colour and A falls out with B it is simply seen as a difference of opinion between two people. If A and C are different race and A falls out with C some do-gooder group then rears its ugly head and accused A of being racist against C. A objects to this. B jumps on the bandwagon and before you know it A and B are developing racist feelings against 'that lot' because they can't stand on their own two feet. C then feels that the do-gooders were right all along and A really was being racist and before you know it the whole things has got completely out of hand.

[SPUGGIE J]

If people hate a darker skinned person then why do these same people go abroad to get a good sun tan? Could it be jealousy?

Is not a case that what is not understood through ignorence is to be seen as a threat? If so it makes our society no better than that of the eraof the crusades to the middle ages?

To Blazey's point on kids being taught racism then not chastizing them when they are racist sexist bigotted etc are they not then condoning it and therefore by default encouraging it?

Untill we reach a state where, by education on all levels, race colour religion equality etc are accepted by all then we are no different than animals. We rate ourselves as better than animals but seem to behave worse than them at times.We have a long way to go but with luck if tolerance is taught from the cradle onwards we will better ourselves.

[WillowTheWhisp]

I readily admit that I envy people with brown skin. I think it looks much nicer than the pale pasty and pathetic that I have been lumbered with. I wish I'd inherited my mother's colouring but unfortunately I didn't. I took after my Dad.

[cashman]

in the main small kids do pick up on whats learnt from mum n dad,also older siblings, when they get older they make their own minds up, so at that point i agree with Blazey. i always look at the person, colour,religion, etc is not a factor, never has been, i slag coloured people, different nationalities off regular,but thats me, i slag every ****** off,some sad gits interpet that as racism,but thats just life, theirs idiots everywhere.

[WillowTheWhisp]

You remind me of something Bernard Manning once said when he was accused of being racist:
"Me? Racist? Don't be $^**&%! daft. I hate every £$%^&*!"

[cashman]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

You remind me of something Bernard Manning once said when he was accused of being racist:
"Me? Racist? Don't be $^**&%! daft. I hate every £$%^&*!"

hey met the guy a couple of times n no way he was racist, though many would disagree, but they are just people that think they know.

[SPUGGIE J]

(my view)

Racism:- a supposed insult offence injustice inequality intolerance of a person not of the same country in the mind of a blinkered narrow minded minority.

other definitions
racism:-the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsicallysuperior to members of other racesracism:-discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
and my favourite

Racism is an ideological, structural and historic stratification process by which the population of European descent, through its individual and institutional distress patterns, intentionally has been able to sustain, to its own best advantage, the dynamic mechanics of upward or downward mobility (of fluid status assignment) to the general disadvantage of the population designated as non-white (on a global scale), using skin color, gender, class, ethnicity or nonwestern nationality as the main indexical criteria used for enforcing differential resource allocation decisions that contribute to decisive changes in relative racial standing in ways most favoring the populations designated as 'white.'


Shoot me later.

[shillelagh]

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

(my view)

Racism:- a supposed insult offence injustice inequality intolerance of a person not of the same country in the mind of a blinkered narrow minded minority.

other definitions
racism:-the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsicallysuperior to members of other racesracism:-discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
and my favourite

Racism is an ideological, structural and historic stratification process by which the population of European descent, through its individual and institutional distress patterns, intentionally has been able to sustain, to its own best advantage, the dynamic mechanics of upward or downward mobility (of fluid status assignment) to the general disadvantage of the population designated as non-white (on a global scale), using skin color, gender, class, ethnicity or nonwestern nationality as the main indexical criteria used for enforcing differential resource allocation decisions that contribute to decisive changes in relative racial standing in ways most favoring the populations designated as 'white.'


Shoot me later.

I'll do it now if you dont make me a brew!!!!