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Old 12-12-2018, 05:10   #2131
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Browsing the papers this morning it's looking more likely that DisMay will finally be getting taken out of office ( I really hope so), to my mind she's been inneffective & incapable in the position of PM, pretty much like her time as home sec.


Whoever replaces her ( looks like Bo Jo) needs to be an out & out leaver, make drastic change to the cabinets make up filling prime positions with dedicated leavers & needs to go through the civil service like a dose of salts, purging the system completely of the remainer/ eu sympathisers. Then we might just get what was wanted & to my view the best for the UK.
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Old 12-12-2018, 06:52   #2132
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In respect of purging the civil service of Remainers and EU sympathisers....think you have hit the nail full square on the head.
I am sure much of the skulduggery has been orchestrated by these unelected faceless people.

While I understand your point on TM.....she has had an unenviable task....and whatever your view of her she has gone in there like a Trojan. She is just one woman cast into the snake pit of the EU....and the EU, you have to concede, never had any intention of negotiating anything of any value...certainly her hope of getting what we would see as a good deal was sub zero.

Can you see any male politician going back to The EU to try and get some slack?....because I can't.
Many of the problems that TM has faced have been created by spineless, gutless MP's here....some of them in her own party.
The appointment of Oillie (Ollie) Robbins was never a good move...he is a snake in the employ of Brussels....so is not going to be giving her good advice....and he certainly is not working towards a clean break with the EU.

This is not a good time to be ousting a PM.....and I cannot see where a replacement would be found....Boris Johnson is a loose canon and is (I believe) more interested in self promotion than the good of the country.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:06   #2133
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I hate May with a passion, but i have a big fear this is not a good move? I can honestly see a remoaner getting in if May loses the vote. cos i fear there is more of them, if that is the case then our vote on Brexit is likely to be scrapped, this is NOTHING at all about the public, this is about MONEY for the scum that run us, hope to god i am wrong.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:08   #2134
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Sorry I can’t understand what caveats Theresa may has negotiated to the benefit of the uk,
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:26   #2135
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Like you Cashy, I fear the outcome of this sorry mess.
I can see absolutely no-one to take up the baton and get the EU off our backs.
It is the betrayal of the electorate and the crushing of democracy (even though I have always held the view that democracy is an illusion we are fed, just so that we THINK we have a say).
We may be opening the doors to the Marxist Corbyn....and then the UK will be well and truly screwed.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:42   #2136
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Like you Cashy, I fear the outcome of this sorry mess.
I can see absolutely no-one to take up the baton and get the EU off our backs.
It is the betrayal of the electorate and the crushing of democracy (even though I have always held the view that democracy is an illusion we are fed, just so that we THINK we have a say).
We may be opening the doors to the Marxist Corbyn....and then the UK will be well and truly screwed.
I doubt very much if that useless get Corbyn will end up P.M. I dont think "EVEN" the tories are that stupid as to allow an election.
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Old 12-12-2018, 14:28   #2137
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I really, really really hope you are right on that one Cashy....because that would be a final disaster.
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Old 12-12-2018, 15:21   #2138
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someone please tell me whats going on … I haven't the foggiest …
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Old 12-12-2018, 15:26   #2139
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Jen, it would take too blooming long....and I would end up in tears.
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Old 12-12-2018, 17:48   #2140
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Discontented tories wat to give DisMay the heave-ho because she hasn't fulfilled her promises/their expectations. 48 or more have made this clear with letters of no confidence so a vote on her suitability as PM is being carried out tonight (now). She needs 159 supporting her to carry on as PM, less than that & she's out!


All well & good .... but the Country is still left with it's present problems & difficulties, so whoever replaces her is going to have the festering mess dropped onto their lap & told to deal with it.


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Old 12-12-2018, 18:14   #2141
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It's a shambles is what it is. The EU stated today that the deal brought by the UK cannot be changed and even if TM loses the vote of confidence, whoever then becomes leader of the Tories still has the same problem of trying to get the deal ratified by parliament.
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Old 12-12-2018, 18:46   #2142
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The EU stated today that the deal brought by the UK cannot be changed.

And they've been saying it since DisMay rolled over & allowed the UK to be manoeuvred into this dismal position! So no deal it is then, hello WTO, tell the Brussels Bolschies that & I'm pretty sure a compromise would be found.
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Old 12-12-2018, 18:48   #2143
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It needs someone to tell them that we will leave without a deal....and that they can whistle for their 39 billion.
I think this is a game of brinkmanship...and they know that TM is trying to please too many people.... and it can't be done.
When you see M Barnier, JCJuncker, Donald Tusk et al, all grinning then you just KNOW that this agreement is only good for them.
We will get nothing from them. It is not in their interests to heave TM out of the brown stuff.
They want a weakened PM....a weak PM is malleable and they know that she will take ANY deal.
Not that ANY deal will get through Parliament.
Our own MP's have been woeful. TM does not carry all the blame....much of it has to go to the people who fuelled project Fear....they talked the country down....I include the CBI and the Bank of England....they have both made predictions which have been very wide of the mark.
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I doubt very much if that useless get Corbyn will end up P.M. I dont think "EVEN" the tories are that stupid as to allow an election.
I didn't think the tories were that stupid, glad i was right, tonight was the best of a bad job, we still got a crap deal, and we still got a load of arseholes from all parties to balls things up even more.
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Old 12-12-2018, 21:23   #2145
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Yes Cashy, you are right, but maybe, just maybe there might be a bit more cohesion now that those who have wished to upset the Apple cart have had their noses smacked.
If only the whole of the Palace of Westminster could show the same united front....those snakes across the channel would be crapping bricks and building a wall to hide behind.

It would be a damn fool idea to have a new leader at this late stage in the game.(anyone with an ounce of sense should be able to see that...I can see it and I had a poor secondary school education)

And who knows if those in Brussels have taken stock of the solid support that the PM has....also maybe the message has got through to the PM about how deeply unpopular her proposed exit strategy is.

We can only watch and wait.
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