Referendum is a load of crap.!!

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

God loves an idiot....that's why there are so many.
And it is not in the interests of the media to question these ludicrous claims that are currently being bandied about.

I am sure that the majority of us who voted to leave, knew that it would not be without some difficulties, but the people who are supposed to represent us are making heavy weather of it....and this is because we(in their opinion) voted for the wrong option....they don't like it and want to stymy the wishes of those they are supposed to serve.

As usual you are quite right, we voted leave because we actually meant, let's carry on paying in to a system that is as useless as a wet fart!
However all the winkers we have fighting for us to leave really want us to stay, so what chance has the democratic MAJORITY got of a fair deal?
The best we can hope for is that the main rulers of the EU will forgive us for our little tantrum and not penalise us too much.

[Margaret Pilkington]

What a bloody(sorry for the profanity, but it maddens me so much that those who are supposed to represent us are doing such a crap job) vain hope that is Less.

The EU would punish us from here to next Christmas for our audacity in wanting to leave....they hate us for doing what no one else has ever done

Jeremy Hunt is now saying that there is a chance that there will be NO Brexit.
How can that be?
My understanding is that the triggering of Article 50 means we leave on March 29 th and if a deal is not done, then we leave on WTO rules.
The laws that govern the leaving were ratified a year ago.

So is this another politician spewing out rubbish to induce fear and panic in the electorate?

Our MP's are a shower of Fisons.

[cashman]

I agree Margaret but think MAY is a remainer at heart and has fed us nowt but crap. ok we know its been hard, but think she NEVER really wanted us out whatever.

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Let's be honest, WAAAAY back in the past the main Countries that made up the Common Market didn't want us to join, reluctantly we were allowed.
Now, as members of Europe for the masses, (some members shouldn't be allowed in the Eurovision song contest, never mind a financial Europe), we are being forced to stay by the same folk that originally said 'NON', but only so they can keep milking us of hard earned money.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes...they do not want US...but they do NEED our money.
They are NOT our friends, they are NOT allies...everything they have done during the so called negotiations prove this conclusively.

[Margaret Pilkington]

The motive of the EU has been to create a Federal States of Europe without the people being aware of what was happening.....political, fiscal, and military harmonisation was always the plan.

The elite stress the economic benefits of the organisation (this one has not passed an audit in more than two decades)because they know that this is the worm that will hide the hook.
And if an organisation is doing something, but do not want the people to know what is being done, then the motives have to be suspected as sinister

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

The motive of the EU has been to create a Federal States of Europe without the people being aware of what was happening.....political, fiscal, and military harmonisation was always the plan.

The elite stress the economic benefits of the organisation (this one has not passed an audit in more than two decades)because they know that this is the worm that will hide the hook.
And if an organisation is doing something, but do not want the people to know what is being done, then the motives have to be suspected as sinister

The motive should read without the STUPID being aware.

[Margaret Pilkington]

The thing is Cashy, much has been done to hide the motives.
It was always the plan that the nations in the EU would be ruled by deception....until they were in too deep to get out.
When one nation imposes its will on another, this constitutes a dictatorship.
Democracy has to be dismantled in order for the aims of the EU to succeed....they do not want the people to have any say in how they are governed....but they will maintain an illusion of democracy....but that is all it is....an illusion.

The Italians elected a government and the government formulated a budget.
This budget was unacceptable to the mandarins in Brussels....so the
Italian government were told to 'think again'.
How can this be right?
The answer is...it can't!

[Ryewolf90]

Well, the latest on Brexit, if you believe the media hype, is that we won't leave the EU if May's Brexit deal is rejected. Surely that would go against the democratic referendum which we had to leave the EU?

From what I've read it's unlikely the TM's deal will get through Parliament, to be honest it;s all a bit of a shambles....

[Margaret Pilkington]

Ryewolf, I think that must be the understatement of the century.

The crew in Brussels must be laughing their socks off.
The MP's are a traitorous bunch who have their own interests at heart. They care nothing for the country....they want us all to be serfs of an undemocratic, money hungry system run by the elite(who have THEIR own agenda...and it is sinister).
I despair because I cannot see this ending well....I can see riots and fighting because the electorate has been betrayed.
Democracy is dead and buried and our MP's are responsible.
Where is Guy Fawkes when you need him?

[cashman]

I think Guy Fawkes had it wrong, he lost his life trying to destroy summat that NEVER existed.?

[Margaret Pilkington]

It might have existed back then Cashy...but it certainly does not exist now.

They want really shaking up.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

It might have existed back then Cashy...but it certainly does not exist now.

They want really shaking up.

Doubt that very much Margaret we were only looked on as useless serfs back then? nothing has changed i reckon.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes, Cashy...the serfs could not vote...it was the parliamentary elite who made the rules.
And Guy Fawkes was a 'would be' assassin(back then the King made the rules)....and he got caught....so obviously not very good at it.
However, history aside....we do need somebody to put a (literal) bomb under those who are SUPPOSED to represent the electorate.

Right now they are making a right dogs breakfast of things.

[monkey hanger]

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1222747]those who are SUPPOSED to represent the electorate.


that is the whole point that they do not get. to represent US not the other way round. their sodding arrogance is beyond me.