Referendum is a load of crap.!! - Page 150

monkey hanger · 14-01-2019, 13:35

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Originally Posted by cashman

I agree Margaret but think MAY is a remainer at heart and has fed us nowt but crap.

ok we know its been hard, but think she NEVER really wanted us out whatever.

may is like most of the others they wanted to remain. they told us we cannot leave without a deal and now the deal on offer will be voted out. if thats the case then hunt will be right. i,m not trying to be wise after the event but i always said i just could never see brexit happening. too many weasels about.

Margaret Pilkington · 14-01-2019, 13:41

It is not just arrogant, but it is undemocratic....which I guess is why they see nothing wrong in the way the EU conducts its affairs....also, why should we PAY these men and women when they are not doing the law making or governing.
It is a fine job to be paid for spouting hot air in a parliament that is only a talking shop...that is not doing the work that these representatives are elected to do.
They are the winners and we are the mugs.

cashman · 14-01-2019, 14:25

I just hope Farage comes back into political life after this so called vote, in some way.

Less · 14-01-2019, 14:40

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Originally Posted by cashman

I just hope Farage comes back into political life after this so called vote, in some way.

Perhaps he will?

Or

Perhaps he'll prove himself to be the only honourable one amongst the whole sorry bunch?

He resigned saying his job was done, that he had no other political ambitions, what a shame if the democratic vote he worked so hard for fails and he is forced to start all over again?

accybeme · 14-01-2019, 17:35

I'm not upset that she lied to us, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe her.

Margaret Pilkington · 14-01-2019, 17:49

It isn't just her...all politicians lie. It is a pre-requisite when they apply for the job.
They are asked ' can you look people in the eye and blatantly lie to them'?
They have to be able to answer 'yes' to this question....if they can't....then they don't get the job....there are NO honest MP's anymore.

You can tell when they are lying...their mouths move.

The best of it is we keep,getting sucked in by them....how gullible does that make us?

monkey hanger · 15-01-2019, 08:14

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1222786]
They are asked ' can you look people in the eye and blatantly lie to them'?
They have to be able to answer 'yes' to this question....i

the problem is with them is that they cannot just answer yes or know to any question asked to them. if you asked em is accrington in lancashire they,d spend ten minutes waffling on and still not give you the answer. they certainly can talk but its the actions that we want.

Margaret Pilkington · 15-01-2019, 08:41

That is right, but you know they are doing it...it is stock in trade of being in politics.
Aren't we fools to believe they have our interests at heart?

DaveinGermany · 15-01-2019, 18:48

So Dismays diabolical "Deal" has been kicked into touch, it was a forgone anyway & right now Corpybin's tabling a motion of no confidence ......!

Big discussion tomorrow in the commons & the carnival rolls on!

Looks like May is on her way out one way or another after all.

cashman · 15-01-2019, 19:09

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

So Dismays diabolical "Deal" has been kicked into touch, it was a forgone anyway & right now Corpybin's tabling a motion of no confidence ......!

Big discussion tomorrow in the commons & the carnival rolls on!

Looks like May is on her way out one way or another after all.

Not a chance Dave imho.

DaveinGermany · 15-01-2019, 19:19

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Originally Posted by cashman

Not a chance Dave imho.

Wouldn't be to sure Cashy, If the vote of no confidence is passed, the tories will be fighting like cats in a sack. Trying to limit the damage to the party & their pockets, they'll be shovelling the deadwood out the window (May included) as fast as possible.

Added to that, May herself should now realise her position is untenable, x votes in x days & she's been hammered on them all! She really needs to jump before she's pushed, do the decent thing & resign. (She really hasn't got any other option).

Burningman · 15-01-2019, 19:42

Did you see that the Chinese got a sprig of green life to grow in the vacuum of the dark side of the Moon?... Amazing!
Certainly looks like it has more chance of surviving than PM May? Isn't science wonderful!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-46873526

Ryewolf90 · 15-01-2019, 19:46

It's quite a big defeat too with a majority of 230, MPs voted by 432 votes to 202 to reject the deal.

Margaret Pilkington · 15-01-2019, 20:35

TM wants to know what we want.
I hope she is listening...but I doubt it.
We want a clean break from the undemocratic EU.
We do not want a customs union....or a single market.
We do not want freedom of movement.
We do not want closer political allegiance.
We do not want to be part of the Federal states of Europe.
We do not want the ECJ to have a say in our legal system.
We do not want to be a vassal state...with our laws handed to us from Brussels.
We do not want a Norway deal.
We do not want a backstop that ties us into the EU forever.
We want to LEAVE....that is L.E.A.V.E....this was what 17.4 million of us voted to do.
We did not vote to be jacked around by those who are supposed to be negotiating.
We do not want to be betrayed by traitorous elected MP's whose manifesto was to deliver the exit from the EU.
We did not vote to be belittled and insulted by those in Brussels.
We did not vote for a half in half out, keep on paying with no say over what legislation is passed....so I hope that makes it clear to you Mrs May.
Oh...and if there is no deal, then we get to keep the £39 billion.

Ryewolf90 · 15-01-2019, 20:48

And they still can't decide what to do, No Deal Exit, Brexit Delay or another referendum.... one of the MP's said this negotiation as been a shambles on a epic proportion....