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04-09-2008, 19:11
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Apprentice Geriatric
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Darwen, Lancashire
Posts: 3,563
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Scotland The Brave.
1. Alex Salmond is proposing to scrap Council Tax in Scotland and replacing it with a local “Income Tax of 3p in the pound of any taxable income”.
2. The other proposal is to scrap all hospital parking charges in Scottish hospitals except for the 3 PFI hospitals.
I wonder if Alex Salmond would like to swop jobs with Gordon Brown?
1. This is a Poll Tax under another name but much fairer than the current Council Tax. Obviously this proposal will upset those households where there is more than one wage earner and delight those where there is only one. But in all tax changes there will always be winners and losers. It is time that the winners were the least well off.
My argument is simple enough. Why should a household with only one wage earner pay the same amount of Council Tax as a household with more than one? That is plainly unfair.
2. Although free parking would be desired, surely most people would not object to say 50p for the day between 8:00 am and 8:00 pm including Blue Badge holders. A simple barrier that opens when 50p is inserted in the slot would take care of collections thus there would be no need to employ an attendant. To prevent some people from trying to get in for free by using the exit to enter there would have to be an automatic device that allows cars to leave but prevents cars from going in.
I’m not sure if I can explain this so that others will understand but here goes. I can only get it wrong, which should please some people.
A series of spring loaded steel plates embedded in the ground across the exit would stick up in the air at an angle of about 45° facing outwards. A car leaving would just push the plates down and drive over them. But a car trying to get in would be presented with a barrier some 12 inches high. If the plates were serrated with points at the end this would deter the four by four clan from riding rough shod over the plates.
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04-09-2008, 20:01
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Resident Waffler
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Accrington, Hyndburn
Posts: 18,115
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
I must admit it made me wish I lived in Scotland when I heard that. The local council tax will be more related to ability to pay which I feel is much fairer.
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04-09-2008, 21:20
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Full Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 282
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
Why should a household with only one wage earner pay the same amount of Council Tax as a household with more than one?
I live on my own , and i get 25% off my council tax , but i do pay more for living on my own . Dont think i would mind paying half of the tax, which is what a couple would pay each.
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04-09-2008, 23:16
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God Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 4,081
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
One of a hundred reasons why I can't wait to move to Aberdeen 
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04-09-2008, 23:36
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Shy & Quiet Member
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
So would non working households pay nothing?
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04-09-2008, 23:48
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God Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lymm, Cheshire
Posts: 2,150
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
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Originally Posted by Neil
So would non working households pay nothing?
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Do they pay now? I understand there is provision for Council Tax benefit to those on Income Support etc.
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05-09-2008, 00:00
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God Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Accrington
Posts: 3,757
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
Didnt everyone complain when the poll tax was brought in?
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05-09-2008, 00:15
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Senior Member+
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: here!
Posts: 1,845
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
Alex Salmond the brave.. or Scotland the brave?.. I think it's the latter.. Alec Salmond and the SNP are one the verge of no return with a possible new vote for Scottish independence... big words from Alec Salmond are no surprise.
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05-09-2008, 00:22
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God Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Accrington
Posts: 4,842
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
This proposal seems to be going backwards rather than forwards. Why can there not be one set amount of council tax/poll tax? From there can the rebates not be sorted? Why should folk that work hard or earn higher wages be discriminated against? It should be a set amount no matter of income in our area!! For goodness sake we aren't talking about high profile people who need extra policing.
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05-09-2008, 00:22
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Tit for tat member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: overlookin' ducks n geese
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
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Originally Posted by shillelagh
Didnt everyone complain when the poll tax was brought in?
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The Scots were the first people to be Poll Taxed, and just grumbled a bit.
It wasn't until it was brought in in England that the rioting on the streets forced Thatcher into a little rethink on the matter.
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05-09-2008, 08:31
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Shy & Quiet Member
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Re: Scotland The Brave.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BERNADETTE
Why should folk that work hard or earn higher wages be discriminated against?
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Because it is an English national pastime 
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