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Old 06-11-2013, 22:28   #1
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why o why are we making british workers redundant and then buy ships from korea you couldnt make it up.. Navy buys Korean to keep its ships fuelled: £452m contract for four tankers goes to the Far East | Mail Online
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Old 08-11-2013, 12:06   #2
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"If it wasn't for the nips being so good at building ships, the yards would still be open on the Clyde."
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Old 08-11-2013, 12:31   #3
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why o why are we making british workers redundant and then buy ships from korea you couldnt make it up.. Navy buys Korean to keep its ships fuelled: £452m contract for four tankers goes to the Far East | Mail Online
Seems there are things in the article that you skipped over. No British company submitted a final bid on the contract. All British warships will still be built in Britain. A question you might ask yourself is: Would a "new" Labor government have done it any different? I don't be thinking so.

Just done a quick check; seems like all new ships for the Royal Canadian Navy will be built in Canada ... of course, we rely on canoes and kayaks:


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Old 08-11-2013, 13:13   #4
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"If it wasn't for the nips being so good at building ships, the yards would still be open on the Clyde."
And they are not plaqued by stupid union rules, go slows, petty regulations, un the elf un safety.
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Old 08-11-2013, 19:01   #5
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gordon brown did it, building ships in britain
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Old 08-11-2013, 19:03   #6
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Seems there are things in the article that you skipped over. No British company submitted a final bid on the contract. All British warships will still be built in Britain. A question you might ask yourself is: Would a "new" Labor government have done it any different? I don't be thinking so.

Just done a quick check; seems like all new ships for the Royal Canadian Navy will be built in Canada ... of course, we rely on canoes and kayaks:


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there is no more warships being built due to the tory cuts no british company probably didnt get to know about the order till the tories stitched it up for their mates
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Aye, that'll be the ongoing shambles of the Queen Elizabeth class carriers. As to why we can't build our own, be they Royal or Merchant Navy, probably to do with over expensive, slow & staggered production, ever spiralling prices. So to avoid that they (the Government ours & others) look else where.

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there is no more warships being built due to the tory cuts no british company probably didnt get to know about the order till the tories stitched it up for their mates
Don't talk so daft, how could they keep it quiet about new warships without British Companies finding out. Who wired your brain together.
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why o why are we making british workers redundant and then buy ships from korea you couldnt make it up.. Navy buys Korean to keep its ships fuelled: £452m contract for four tankers goes to the Far East | Mail Online
Cost.
Korean Daewoo- £452million.
Italian Fincantieri-£675 million.
UK shipyards- no final quotes, so no chance of a contract!
The Italians would have shared 35% of the building of just one of the ships with BAE. Being BAE even that would probably have had massive delays and cost over-runs.
Incidentally, we'll probably be buying at least 3 more ships off Daewoo.

Cost. The same reason we buy Chinese white goods, clothes and nearly everything else we need.
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Old 09-11-2013, 15:54   #12
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bae only take on work with no fixed price like the submarines and aircraft carrier shambles that have no planes that can be used on them.clever people politicians much like those that run the clown halls.
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Old 09-11-2013, 21:50   #13
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When we were over in the UK last year (after 55 years away) and visited the Clyde, it was depressing to note how the ship-building industry had virtually left that area. Over the years this must have affected a huge number of families.
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Cost.
Korean Daewoo- £452million.
Italian Fincantieri-£675 million.
UK shipyards- no final quotes, so no chance of a contract!
The Italians would have shared 35% of the building of just one of the ships with BAE. Being BAE even that would probably have had massive delays and cost over-runs.
Incidentally, we'll probably be buying at least 3 more ships off Daewoo.

Cost. The same reason we buy Chinese white goods, clothes and nearly ever
Hmm...you buy a fridge for £100 and it don't work 12 months later..you don't worry too much, you buy another...you buy a brand new car, it's underpowered, it's a rattletrap with poor cornering, cruddy fuel consumption and has the dashboard equivalent of a 1970 Ford Cortina, but it gets you from A to B, that's ok too, until you try to upgrade and trade in.

You buy a warship, it leaks, it's shoddy and it's so underpowered that it can't keep up with a Somali pirate vessel...major problem...the tories have googled 'cheap warship for sale'

Daewoo..jack of all trades master of none!
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Like this lot, you mean?

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