Thatchers eighties are back - London Riots - Page 9

steeljack · 08-08-2011, 01:36

Come on folks , can anyone say they are really surprised , seem to remember there was a Politician who predicted this sort of stuff 30 odd yrs ago , and what happened he was villified by the multi cultual Quislings (of all political stripes) Politicians (elected leaders) National and Local have allowed ethno-centric Communitys/ghettos to be created instead of promoting integration into the national culture and now act surprised when this sort of stuff, including calls for Sharia law happens

Mancie · 08-08-2011, 02:52

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Come on folks , can anyone say they are really surprised , seem to remember there was a Politician who predicted this sort of stuff 30 odd yrs ago , and what happened he was villified by the multi cultual Quislings (of all political stripes) Politicians (elected leaders) National and Local have allowed ethno-centric Communitys/ghettos to be created instead of promoting integration into the national culture and now act surprised when this sort of stuff, including calls for Sharia law happens

Steeljack ..you seem to have an insight into make up of communties in this country that we weak and feeble minded habitants can't grasp... in the language you may know.. hey why don't you tell us were we are going wrong .. lead us to the promise land of 1,000's of murderers and whole cities left to ruin in your country...take a look at your own before you start slagging off others.

steeljack · 08-08-2011, 04:34

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Steeljack ..you seem to have an insight into make up of communties in this country that we weak and feeble minded habitants can't grasp... in the language you may know.. hey why don't you tell us were we are going wrong .. lead us to the promise land of 1,000's of murderers and whole cities left to ruin in your country...take a look at your own before you start slagging off others.

Not slagging off the UK just disappointed in the way things are going, seems to me you (the UK) haven't learned a thing by the example that some of the major cities in the US have set for you , one would have thought that after seeing whats happened in various cities in the US you would have been bright enough to follow a different path

Margaret Pilkington · 08-08-2011, 05:34

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Come on folks , can anyone say they are really surprised , seem to remember there was a Politician who predicted this sort of stuff 30 odd yrs ago , and what happened he was villified by the multi cultual Quislings (of all political stripes) Politicians (elected leaders) National and Local have allowed ethno-centric Communitys/ghettos to be created instead of promoting integration into the national culture and now act surprised when this sort of stuff, including calls for Sharia law happens

Would that have been Enoch Powell and his 'Rivers of Blood' speech?

steeljack · 08-08-2011, 06:12

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Would that have been Enoch Powell and his 'Rivers of Blood' speech?

Margaret , you got it in one , sorry we all thought different in those days but it seems history is proving (sp?) him right , the "west' is now being forced to give up its culture/lifestyle in the name of what ? nothing I or most of my generation , which I think includes you would have thought would ever happen , there was never any problem/conflict when the first 'wave ' of immigrants moved into the area , same as the Poles after WW2 they adapted to the local customs without demanding special rights , never a problem with the Italian family across the street or the German woman who lived round the corner and had married a local tommy after the British occupation of Hamburg and had kids who I went to school with. But it seems to me a "mass instant influx" and the creation of communities (ghettos) without absortion into local areas creates problems ... sorry just my thoughts .
agree or disagree its up to you ... thanks

Margaret Pilkington · 08-08-2011, 06:23

I remember him well...and yes he was right in many respects.
These people do not wish to integrate. They do not like western ways. They want to have their own Sharia court system...but if you criticise them you are branded racist.

I worked alongside Indian doctors, in fact doctors from all nations and I always got along with them...maybe that was because we had a common aim.
So I don't think I am racist. I do not mind anyone coming here and living peaceably...allowing me to have my way of life.........I do not begrudge them their way of life either....but I do not want to be pushed into accepting their culture which is, it seems,what some of these in-comers want.......an emirate of Islam is how it was recently described...where I will be a foreigner in my own country.
Just my own view.....don't expect others to subscribe to it.

cashman · 08-08-2011, 08:03

Steeljack thats more or less bang on the mark. imho.

jaysay · 08-08-2011, 08:09

It appears that the Police have a tactical unit in London called Trident, which specialises in gun crime within the black community (was talked about on Breakfast TV this morning) it was also commented that the police didn't get a strong enough grip on the situation on Saturday night, which of course if they HAD taken a much stronger grip on things they would have been criticised for police strong arm tactics and over reaction, damned if they do damned if they don't

cashman · 08-08-2011, 08:14

am aware of that special unit, but it puzzles me why it wasn't set up to tackle gun crime in the community as a whole.

it aint just blacks that carry firearms.

jaysay · 08-08-2011, 08:49

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am aware of that special unit, but it puzzles me why it wasn't set up to tackle gun crime in the community as a whole.

it ain't just blacks that carry firearms.

From what was said this morning cashy it seems there is an inherent problem within the black community, and that was a black person saying it

cashman · 08-08-2011, 09:02

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From what was said this morning cashy it seems there is an inherent problem within the black community, and that was a black person saying it

not disputing that, but its irrelevant to me all nationalities carry firearms. so are they saying its ok fer others. to me its missing the point,its a lot of whats wrong in this country,everybody should be treated equal.

jaysay · 08-08-2011, 09:20

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not disputing that, but its irrelevant to me all nationalities carry firearms. so are they saying its ok fer others. to me its missing the point,its a lot of whats wrong in this country,everybody should be treated equal.

Its ironic really that the first thing Blair did as PM was to rush a bill through Parliament banning hand guns, which was the biggest waste of parliamentary time ever, the only people who were effective were people like the Olympic pistol shooting team who had to go over to France to practice. You could just see it couldn't you, the local armed blaggers having a meeting, "well we can't use hand guns anymore that barsteward Blair as banned um, we'll have to stick to the sawn off for the next bank job lads" doh

garinda · 08-08-2011, 09:27

I don't think this as anything to do with race.

The scrotes 'rioting' in Enfield last night were mainly white.

It's a mentality that transends colour.

jaysay · 08-08-2011, 09:39

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I don't think this as anything to do with race.

The scrotes 'rioting' in Enfield last night were mainly white.

It's a mentality that transends colour.

Well it did say that these riots had been coordinated on social networking sites, and mobile phone networks, no doubt rent a mob saw another opportunity to create mayhem and took it with open arms

cashman · 08-08-2011, 09:40

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Well it did say that these riots had been coordinated on social networking sites, and mobile phone networks, no doubt rent a mob saw another opportunity to create mayhem and took it with open arms

no all these poor hungry,starving youths had to eat.