The next five years - Page 4

DaveinGermany · 12-05-2010, 15:08

Cameron & Clegg are in, Brown is out ! it's as simple as, no amount of backbiting between followers of whatever party is going to change facts ! Each party has its strengths & weaknesses, the reason Labour came in for such a slating is that it was on their watch (for the last 13 years) that the Countries fortunes have been so sorely abused & the fact that Brown assumed the mantle of leader undemocratically.

Now lets see what C&C can do, & should they be as ineffective I wil gladly vent my spleen on their performance too, as I've previously stated I'm not one for politics, they're all as bad as each other & I'd quite happily string half of them up for what they've done to the UK. My concern & care is about my Country & her people, irrespective of leaning, tendencies, creed or colour. This is the Land of my Birth they're debasing & it has got to stop.

Tealeaf · 12-05-2010, 15:11

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Nice to see you take an interest in our Local politics Garinda.. but there has not been an alternative in Bermondsey since the early 80's.. but the Tories only get 14% of the vote.. proud to say we are a Tory free community,

Eh? What's the difference now between the Tories & Lib-Dems? Other than name, nowt.

jaysay · 12-05-2010, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Eh? What's the difference now between the Tories & Lib-Dems? Other than name, nowt.

You'll be able to tell them apart in the commons Tealeaf, the Tories will wear blue ties the Lib/dems orange with a blue stripe

garinda · 12-05-2010, 15:16

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Nice to see you take an interest in our Local politics Garinda.. but there has not been an alternative in Bermondsey since the early 80's.. but the Tories only get 14% of the vote.. proud to say we are a Tory free community,

I was living in London, so of course took an interest when your current M.P., in the nastiest by-election of the twentieth century, managed to swing the vote from a Labour majority, to the Liberals, with a massive 44.2% swing.

He's still your M.P. You must be very proud.

Tory free zone?

They polled 7,638, or 17%, last week in Bermondsey and Old Southwark.

Like I said you need to get out more, campaiging for Labour in your manor.

Don't you worry about us, we're sorted.

cashman · 12-05-2010, 15:18

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Each party has its strengths & weaknesses, the reason Labour came in for such a slating is that it was on their watch (for the last 13 years) that the Countries fortunes have been so sorely abused & the fact that Brown assumed the mantle of leader undemocratically.

as was John Major! can ya remember the press slating him fer being n undemocraticly elected leader?

Tealeaf · 12-05-2010, 15:21

Maybe theres a job for Garinda, making a new coalition neck tie.....I suppose blue with yellow polka dots?

jaysay · 12-05-2010, 15:22

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as was John Major! can ya remember the press slating him fer being n undemocraticly elected leader?

But he soon became one, unlike Sunny Jim who never did win a vote and cocked up bigtime

jaysay · 12-05-2010, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Maybe theres a job for Garinda, making a new coalition neck tie.....I suppose blue with yellow polka dots?

and a Bikini for the girls

Mancie · 12-05-2010, 15:53

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Originally Posted by garinda

I was living in London, so of course took an interest when your current M.P., in the nastiest by-election of the twentieth century, managed to swing the vote from a Labour majority, to the Liberals, with a massive 44.2% swing.

He's still your M.P. You must be very proud.

Tory free zone?

They polled 7,638, or 17%, last week in Bermondsey and Old Southwark.

Like I said you need to get out more, campaiging for Labour in your manor.

Don't you worry about us, we're sorted.

It's been a no Tory area well before Simon Hughes.. which is more than can be said of Hyndburn..the Tories had an MP in Accrington- Ossie in the 80's...to be honest I keep it stum in my part of the woods.. I'm ashamed!

Wynonie Harris · 12-05-2010, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's been a no Tory area well before Simon Hughes.. which is more than can be said of Hyndburn..the Tories had an MP in Accrington- Ossie in the 80's...to be honest I keep it stum in my part of the woods.. I'm ashamed!

Sorry, mate, but your red blinkers have blinded you there. Ken Hargeaves was an outstanding local MP who genuinely cared for his constituents and would go the extra mile to help them...and I speak from experience!

garinda · 12-05-2010, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's been a no Tory area well before Simon Hughes.. which is more than can be said of Hyndburn..the Tories had an MP in Accrington- Ossie in the 80's...to be honest I keep it stum in my part of the woods.. I'm ashamed!

Yeah, I bet all those that live in these million quid flats in your manor, vote Communist.

3 bedroom flat for sale Pump House Close, London, SE16 - Globrix property

cashman · 12-05-2010, 18:29

Well less than 24 Hrs in office, n i presumed that many tory voters believed Camerons way out of the recession, was cut the deficit quickly is the way? well suprise,suprise, old "Hug A Hoodys" lot NOW aint so sure.

whilst they have said 6 billion will be cut off this year,on tonights news they say yes they will..........BUT this may not work - err it depends on the "Global Economy"

funny how that was never said to yas when canvassing?

also funny,how no-one from the media pounced on this? errr no its not cos it was the wrong party.

i have no idea if Tory or Labours way is the best? all i know is who i prefer to believe! i just hope camerons way is right, or were in even more crap, n if he aint correct he's conned you torys.

Tealeaf · 12-05-2010, 18:39

What does appear to be a particularly nasty act by this coalition government are the constitutional changes they are setting in motion already. Firstly, there is the idea of a fixed term parliament of 5 years. I've no problem with that, although it was to my knowledge not in the Tory or Lib Manifestos. But what happens if there is a vote of no confidence in the regime - if a bunch of Lib backbenchers revolt and combine with Labour and the Nats. Usually, just one majority vote would be enough to cause an election (as happened in 1979).

Not now, though - this lot are proposing that a vote of no-confidence has to be won with a 55% majority, which more or less makes it impossible to win under the current party arithmetic. This is unjust, undemocratic and immoral. I suspect we'll hear alot more about this over the next few weeks and months.

cashman · 12-05-2010, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

What does appear to be a particularly nasty act by this coalition government are the constitutional changes they are setting in motion already. Firstly, there is the idea of a fixed term parliament of 5 years. I've no problem with that, although it was to my knowledge not in the Tory or Lib Manifestos. But what happens if there is a vote of no confidence in the regime - if a bunch of Lib backbenchers revolt and combine with Labour and the Nats. Usually, just one majority vote would be enough to cause an election (as happened in 1979).

Not now, though - this lot are proposing that a vote of no-confidence has to be won with a 55% majority, which more or less makes it impossible to win under the current party arithmetic. This is unjust, undemocratic and immoral. I suspect we'll hear alot more about this over the next few weeks and months.

well be honest did expect fair play?

Tealeaf · 12-05-2010, 18:50

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well be honest did expect fair play?

No...politics is a dirty business. That's why nice guys like you, Wynonnie and me keep well away.